2005 Liberty New Price

[flyu2there]

Jon,

I think you will find that 40 foot coaches are at least as popular as the 45's out here on the left coast, if not more.....back to that California combined length limit law. A 40' with IFS can be parked just about anywhere and can wrangle its way around some pretty "iffy" roads without worry of roadside negotiations with the local constable.

My thought is that Joe Baggadonuts would be more likely to opt for a very low mileage coach vice shall we say a "high timer". I would bet money that the guy upgrading from something akin to a Winnebago Chief will be the buyer and he is still convinced that, like his Winnebago, it will be junk once that odometer rolls past 100k, no its not logical but I think that is the reality.

I cannot comment on Vanatare, just do not know anything about them or their history however for the aforementioned buyer, he too would likely not care. Same with OTR air, as long as he can make it cool inside (no pun intended) he would be happy.

At the end of the day, what I see is a coach that is priced way down there and agreed, it probably will not appreciate in any of our lifetimes however, at that price, it brings a new kind of buyer to the table. What is surprising is that there have been no takers thus far; I would wager that somewhere between 125 and 130k, cash, would take that coach, yet it remains unsold.

John

[GDeen]

Jon,

.... What is surprising is that there have been no takers thus far; I would wager that somewhere between 125 and 130k, cash, would take that coach, yet it remains unsold.

John

Maybe cuz you would still have a pink bus no matter the price???

[Coloradobus]

Not so fast. The aforementioned coach, like its Ebay-mate has had numerous price changes up and down over the months I have been watching them. This Marathon has had a fire, so whats really wrong with the 40ft Vantare?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-...245#v4-28ioned This is a new "buy it now" price, it was B.I.N. for $114K earlier last week.

[flyu2there]

They admit that the Marathon has a salvaged title, aka the kiss of death...good luck at trying to insure that beast, save maybe some PL/PD and you will pay a premium for that!

Dunno if the Vanatare is a pig in the poke or not, what remains is that it is priced what appears to be very right.

This falling price thing is not just with coaches, have a look at some of the big boat sites, amazing! Airplanes too, just bought an O-470 engine complete, yellow tagged servicable with 400 SMOH for 2300.00...oouch!!

John

[Coloradobus]

Oh No, John,

Its not the market, it's a whim what will be the price on a certain day.

Both of these coaches have had various prices for "BUY IT NOW". The fire damaged Marathon a few weeks ago was as low as B.I.N. $104K. The Vantare has been as low as $137K and as high as $152K. These prices aren't a steady decline because of market pricing, they go up and they down. Watch both of these coaches, the listings never end, but the pricing change is almost a daily occurence. It wasn't too long ago when the Fire damaged Marathon was selling for $104K, and now its UP at $125K. It doens't make sense!

[merle&louise]

Here's a 97 Marathon with OTR and is listed at Desert West for $165,000 asking! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MARAT...=p4506.c0.m245

Of course, you would have to like green (which I do, but Louise doesn't).

[Coloradobus]

Tuga,

The green Marathon Coach 1997, Coach #479 VIN-2P9M33497S1001565 is no longer at Desert West. It was a GE bank repo and Big Sky Wholesalers/Phoenix bought it and have it listed on Ebay. Rumour has it, the bank could possibly accept $175K or $170K, which is more than what it was priced at Desert West.

Look closely at the photos of this coach. The generator and bus motor have a been touched up badly. I was told by one of the listors that this coach had a DDEC #4??? The side drivers dash is rough. More photos can be found at www.azrv4less.com and hunt for 1997 prevost in the list of jpg's.

[flyu2there]

I was going to say that Wayne Mullis of Desert West runs a one man show. He also throws enough in the ask to garner some wiggle room for the buyer. As an aside, he is a lousy photographer and you always have glimpses of his facility right in the bowels of old Phoenix.

Someone took that Marathon to the local golf and country club an spent a few bucks taking the pictures.....looks very nice but, as you said Tuga, very very green!

John

[flyu2there]

Wow, what do you know. Same guy selling both of them! The Marathon is a mess inside and I would bet smells like a 70 year old pool hall! Probably take an additional 100k to put it right. Gotta wonder now about the Vanatare.......has to have a history. Maybe he rolled the speedometer and tach on the generator, slapped on a couple of used Double Coins and took it to the 25 cent car wash...who knows. Still, it is interesting to follow.

[flyu2there]

Here's a 97 Marathon with OTR and is listed at Desert West for $165,000 asking! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MARAT...=p4506.c0.m245

Of course, you would have to like green (which I do, but Louise doesn't).

I really am beginning to Not understand all of this........bus is now at 200K on E-Bay. Did the market reverse overnight or are there just a bunch of scammers out there...who knows.

John