Guns for protection

[Orren Zook]

For anyone interested in concealed carry, here's a link to a web site that provides reciprocity (and other) information: http://www.carryconcealed.net/

[merle&louise]

Joe & Orren,

Thanks for the input and the website addresses. I'll just keep it in the safe with the ammo. I'm looking forward to the class Saturday!

[phorner]

Another good website

http://www.usconcealedcarry.com/10/index.html

[bluevost]

Some years ago I attended a firearms seminar at Escapees Escapade in Lancaster, CA. The gent who gave the seminar was a retired Penn. Trooper, lifetime member of NRA, etc. The one thing I remember to this day from that seminar is that if you have to use a gun, and you kill someone, the only thing you say to anyone is "I was in fear of great bodily harm or even death". Don't say anything more or less until your attorney arrives.

[hhoppe]

It's great to see the awakening of our group to the new proposed controls the lefties have in store for us.

Subject: Fw: GUN CONTROL



Read and think of what happened in Nazi Germany, USSR, etc.

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Pl ease send this to everybody on your list
Have you got this in your scope?

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House.
This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.

We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles radio program.

Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying under the radar.

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

•It is registered

•You are fingerprinted

•You supply a current Driver's License

•You supply your Social Security #

•You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing

•Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.

•There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccess ible to any child under 18.

They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family - pass this along.

Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him on KHOW 630 a.m. in the morning. He suggests the best way to fight this is to tell all your friends about it and "spring into action". Also he suggests we all join a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle Association, hunting associations, gun clubs and especially the NRA.

This is just a "termite" approach to com plete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before any one realizes it.

This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.

If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe. After working with convicts for 26 years I know this bill, if passed, would make them happy and in less danger from their victims.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45

Please... copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA .

Forgive me for taking up so much space on the forum with this subject.

[tdelorme]

Some years ago I attended a firearms seminar at Escapees Escapade in Lancaster, CA. The gent who gave the seminar was a retired Penn. Trooper, lifetime member of NRA, etc. The one thing I remember to this day from that seminar is that if you have to use a gun, and you kill someone, the only thing you say to anyone is "I was in fear of great bodily harm or even death". Don't say anything more or less until your attorney arrives.

Ken, that is exactly what Jan was taught in the class she took in Dallas. "I was afraid I was going to be killed." "I want to cooperate with the police and will tell you exactly what happened when my attorney arrives." Nothing more, even if threatened with being taken to jail. Anyone needs time to think through such a situation and ten minuets after a shooting is not the time to be giving law enforcement a statement.

Tuga, you will also learn that pulling the trigger is the last thing you want to do. You will be taught several things to say to an attacker if there is time. "I have a gun and I will shoot you" is first. "If you don't stop, I will shoot you" is another.
I do not ever want to shoot someone. I will do everything possible to avoid that happening. If, however, I am in a situation where I think there is nothing else I can do, to avoid being harmed, I will shoot and kill the attacker.

[phorner]

We were advised in the CCW class that I took that if you shoot someone, you will in effect fight for your life 3 times.

The first time is when you shoot someone because your life is in danger.

The second time is when you fight for your freedom as you deal with the prosecutor who may want to see you behind bars for the rest of your life.

And the third time is when you fight for your financial "life" dealing with civil lawsuits filed by the family of the fine up-standing young person, a pillar of the community, who's life you just tragically cut short and they now have no one to support them.

Avoid pulling that trigger unless there is absolutely no alternative.

[merle&louise]

Anybody want to buy a gun?

Just kidding. I realize that pulling the trigger is the last thing I want to do; believe me I do not want to harm anyone. But if my life/Louise's life is threatened I will protect myself while following the procedures outlined in the gun safety class.

I have NEVER been in a situation where I wish that I had a gun, and I have traveled extensively. There is no substitute for common sense. I am sure that I will learn safety and proper procedures in this NRA class.

I would like to ask the same question that I asked at the beginning of this thread: Have any of you been in a situation where you felt you needed a gun? If so, what were the circumstances?

[BrianE]

Tuga, I was married to this woman a long time ago............

[jack14r]

I must have been married to her sister!