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    Quote Originally Posted by No Name View Post
    This may help some here, parts, resources, etc..

    I think the 8V92 is great, while most run from it. Look at boatdiesel.com for info on the 8V92 - they were used in several 50ft class yachts, especially the venerable Hatteras 53 MY that is a massive favorite amongst the cruising couple owner/operators (no capt, no crew). Also dieselpro.com is a great parts resource for the DD's as well as they have hour+ long videos of how to disassemble and rebuild them on the Tube. Know the differences between the 71 and 92 series. The long range cruisers prefer the simplicity of the dry sleeve 71 while the 92 has more displacement & power, it has fragility issues with cavitation in around the sleeves. Most boat engine issues are directly from neglected/differed maintenance, bad house keeping, cheap fluids and parts and owner abuse. While they will rev to 2400rpm, they don't like it and will destroy themselves. They like 1200-1800rpm all day long - and keep it under 2000 whenever possible. Consider that when looking at gearing and speed down the highway. Sportfish boats where the capt's set a 2100-2150 rpm cruise get around 2000 hours out of an engine before a rebuild is required. Long Range Cruisers that loaf their boats around 1400 rpm get 8000+ hours out of the engines. As a rule, any DD at 4500 hours or more is considered timed out and ready for a rebuild - doesn't mean they are shot, but boat value wise the price takes a hit. In the marine world a rebuild is generally $4k/hole (parts & labor) on practically any engine. The DD 2-strokes parts are relatively cheap, but due to them having basically double the parts (total systems) of a 4-stroke electrically controlled engine, you make up the difference in additional labor. DD 2-strokes give the mechanically inclined a ton of options, cheap. Swapping out injectors, adjusting timing, etc... All things to make your DD go from mild to wild. Regardless all DD 2-strokes that are E rated (high performance boats, yachts, patrol boats, etc.) are essentially 1hp per 1 cu in. so an 8V92 E rated marine DD would be between 700 & 750hp. The commercial continuous duty ratings will be down in the 400hp range and governed to 1800rpm. There is the secret with the ratings, they do reduce injector size but mainly reduce the rpm from 2400 (E), to 2300, to 2100, to 1900 to 1800 (A).


    Usually truck engines are detuned significantly because they A: do not have an endless supply of cooling capacity from the ocean. B: are operated in constant start/stop/load/rest environment on the hwy, where a boat simply sets the throttles with a relatively constant load condition. Most good capts run their engines based upon load percentage vs RPM/speed. Know what the BSFC of your engine is and try to run right at that RPM - the engine will last forever, produce the most tq/hp per rpm and yield the best fuel economy (it's usually right where the Hp and Tq curves intersect. The DDs produce gobs of Tq down low and drops off sharply as RPM exceeds.

    As mentioned in precious posts, we came from the boating world, unless you can't tell. To 2nd the post above, no engine should leak. Some engines have design issues that get improved with each version to mitigate leak prone areas. The evolution of the Cat 3406 A, B, C, (no D) E models all had changes to the head gasket/spacer plate design as well as the peanut cover on the front. I would definitely watch for smoking and check oil level daily - with the supercharger these engines can produce enough blow by on a severely worn engine to start eating themselves/running on the crankcase oil vs diesel from the injectors - one main reason they have manual flapper valves to close the air intake.
    Completely off topic, but I may have to pick your brain next year when I start looking for a trawler for my wife and I. Something in the 40' range. Preferably twin diesels and an Aft cabin is a must. Im over on the hull truth as well, those guys are great. But your explanation of the DD was astounding.
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    Well as some one who knew NOTHING about Prevost prior to looking at them I bought a 94 Liberty Elegant Lady that had been parked for a few years and driven very little.I do have all the maintenance records back to 2003. I did a LOT of research and reading about Prevost and Liberty as well as looking into the history of the coach prior to the purchase.
    I will admit they almost gave it to me. I have a budget for everything that needed doing safety wise tires batteries etc. So far all these charges includes labor. I have spent $5500 for all new tires, $4500 for all new batteries house, engine, generator, and computer systems. $9500 for all the aire bags, norgen and leveling valves, repairing air leaks and bay door shocks. $3000 for servicing the coach, generator including flushing and rodding radiators engine and generator, bushings and other misc parts and repairs. This also includes cleaning the water system out, the grey/black tank and checking every component in the coach. So far with the exception of the TVs and hot water heater (tanks) I am still under 55k for everything including the purchase of the coach. I have some things I want to do to yet, but are not necessary or even needed for the operation of the coach. At this point and time I am very happy. with my purchase. No everyone will be as blessed as I have been.
    Last edited by Nightwind; 02-05-2025 at 11:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightwind View Post
    Well as some one who knew NOTHING about Prevost prior to looking at them I bought a 94 Liberty Elegant Lady that had been parked for a few years and driven very little.I do have all the maintenance records back to 2003. I did a LOT of research and reading about Prevost and Liberty as well as looking into the history of the coach prior to the purchase.
    I will admit they almost gave it to me. I have a budget for everything that needed doing safety wise tires batteries etc. So far all these charges includes labor. I have spent $5500 for all new tires, $4500 for all new batteries house, engine, generator, and computer systems. $9500 for all the aire bags, norgen and leveling valves, repairing air leaks and bay door shocks. $3000 for servicing the coach, generator including flushing and rodding radiators engine and generator, bushings and other misc parts and repairs. This also includes cleaning the water system out, the grey/black tank and checking every component in the coach. So far with the exception of the TVs and hot water heater (tanks) I am still under 55k for everything including the purchase of the coach. I have some things I want to do to yet, but are not necessary or even needed for the operation of the coach. At this point and time I am very happy. with my purchase. No everyone will be as blessed as I have been.
    Sounds like you may not know coaches, but you know what to look for and preventative maintenance.
    1996 Le Mirage XL - Passenger bus, starting the journey of a MH conversion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick3316 View Post
    Sounds like you may not know coaches, but you know what to look for and preventative maintenance.
    I absolutely admitted that I knew 100% of nothing about coaches. As you stated I DO know maintenance and who to get it done and more importantly have some one who can will and does tell me the things that I don't know .....yet. So far I am happy and more than ready for my first trip to somewhere close to home. I have no doubts there will be hiccups, growing and learning pains but at 67.5 yrs of age I am happy to learn and the only one to watch me cuss is my dog Ziva.

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    2003 379 Peterbilt 6nz Cat, 18 speed 3.55 ratios
    1994 Liberty Elegant Lady 500 8v92

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