I think the print space dedicated to advertisers might be a better indicator. Even that might not be a good indicator as advertisers move to other avenues to reach their customers.

One thing for sure, traditional RV manufacturers' sales are up. I think Prevost expects to deliver about 30 RV shells this year with one converter tracking to 20 some coaches this coming year. Certainly, not the big numbers of years past, far better than just a few years ago.