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Gary D, you are absolutely correct. This is all about power. Share the wealth and get votes. Once you have the votes feeding at the trough, perpetual power. A grand social experiment that has never worked because no one is incentivized to work any longer.
Roger, not only is the mainstream media not objective, they are cheerleaders! It is ridiculous and very dangerous.
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I think she was your high school prom date Krakboy!
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You should have seen her before she went under the knife....a banana nose and more Chins than the Hong Kong phone book.
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Concerning all of the Closings of Auto Dealers around the country, has anyone else heard the rumor they all supported the Republican Party, or is that just gossip?I don't know I am just saying ? !!!
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A quote from Samuel Adams. Those who prefer tranquility of servitude had best be prepared to crouch down and lick the hand which feeds you.
Ben Franklin said "Those willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.
If we fail to speak up and speak out against this madness then we should be prepared to accept everything we get (Glenn Beck)
A quote from yours truly. It is gonna have to get a lot worse before it gets better. I am afraid anything short of a complete system failure will allow the bureaucrats to continue to kick the can down the road. Because of this notion I hope the current administration gets that second term.
Many of you have struck a cord with your thoughts on the next automobile you'll buy and I believe there are millions of folks out there who feel the same.
It is our responsibility as patriots to all be putting a FORD in the drive the next time around. Dodge and Chevy need to go the way of the dinosaurs.
If I had investment cash I would be buying into Ford they are going to be big.
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If we agree with Gordon that Kalifornia is to be the model, then I suggest we lobby for a federal law that allows those opposed to the viewpoints of those in power to leave the state, but forbid the liberals and tree huggers from leaving. Let them live in the environment they would like the rest of us to live in. When the whole thing collapses under its own weight deny them federal funds to clean up the mess they created.
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Most car dealers are Conservatives, so most are republicans. I do not know of any dealer who was cut that was a democrat! I think I could gurantee that none who were cut were big Obama supporters.
I agree with Rick that most of the dealers who where cut had pissed off the factories at one time or another. I know of several dealers who should have been cut in this area if the goal was to eliminate over dealering like they claimed. Not one was cut that should have been. Several 5-star dealers (the top quality dealers) were cut though. I am sure that if I were still a dealer, I would have been cut as I used to be on the Dealer Councils and advertising boards for all franchises I had, and as a result had a number of testy sessions (keeping it nice) with them.
I personally feel that Chrysler is toast and will be gone or broken up and Jeep sold off within 18 to 24 months. Unfortunately, I do not think GM can survive long term because of the sentiment of most Americans, which has been expressed a number of times in this thread. The difference is that Chrysler will be allowed to fail, but the government will rescue GM again. Next time, they may put Ford and GM into one company. I have seen several analyst that expect by 2015 there will be only one or possibly two domestic auto makers left. It will be Ford and GM or Ford/GM combined, I think.
Even used car dealers are suffering with this economy! Several of my friends who are used car dealers have closed up in the past few months. I hope Obama does not completely wreck the entire US economy.
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If we really think about this there are a lot of things that can change the landscape. Lamar Alexander our TN senator is pushing a bill that will distribute 100% of the GM shares that are owned by the government to those who file and pay taxes next April 15th. That would create a huge incentive for citizens to support GM, would get the government off the board and change the attitude that prevails about buying from GM. I personally think its current vehicles are as good as any, so I don't want to see it fail for the wrong reasons.
Chrysler has an uphill battle because its quality has lagged and I really do not see a lot of its product line getting people in the front door.I don't know if Fiat will change that either because they have never designed product for this market anyway. Ed probably has called this one right.
What will not change no matter what is the number of cars produced here, so despite all the blathering about letting GM fail it means nothing but the loss of UAW jobs. The other companies selling in this market already produce some of their products here and if all three of the US manufacturers failed we would just have more factories with foreign names over the door turning out cars for this market., none of which would be UAW workers.
I may stand alone on this, but the failure of businesses, regardless of size is part of the cycle of business and I don't think the government should stick its nose where it doesn't belong. Pave our roads and protect our shores is all I want the government to do. Everything else the private sector should handle.
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But Jon, who wants stock in a company where Ron Gettlefinger is sitting on the board?
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