I"ve seen something on e-bay...advice please..

[dalej]

You know I guess it's all relative. I'm probably just jealous, I would love to be a first time bus shopper at this time and know what I know about these bus's.

You made good points Jon, good value or a good price, you don't know unless you pick that bus apart.

Lets say we start a POG bus buyers service, or BBS you pay $5,000 you get 3 guys to come to the bus that your going to buy, fine tooth comb the bus and give you a list of the items that will need attention. The three guys will converse and let you know if it's a good purchase at the agreed on sale price.

[flyu2there]

Viv,

Aside from what Jon mentioned, take a close look at that second mortgage offer. I would make certain that 4% is not a teaser rate for 12-18 months or that it is not loaded somewhere with points and fee's. 4% 2nd money is very low ......................

Also you may consider rolling over that cashed in IRA, you have some time to do that and it probably would save you some $$$; go to a CPA not H and R Block.

John

[Journeyone144]

----- Original Message -----
From: DVucinovic
To: Vivian A. McGraw
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: 1994 Prevost Liberty / Prevost-stuff


VIVIAN,

COME ON DOWN AND PICK UP YOUR 1994 LIBERTY FOR 115,000. BUT I AM FLORIDA LUXURY COACH. I WILL HOLD THE COACH FOR YOU TIL TUESDAY WITH NO DEPOSIT, JUST ON YOUR WORD....DOES THIS WORK FOR YOU?

DONNIE V

Viv,

Aside from what Jon mentioned, take a close look at that second mortgage offer. I would make certain that 4% is not a teaser rate for 12-18 months or that it is not loaded somewhere with points and fee's. 4% 2nd money is very low ......................


John

[garyde]

Hi Viv. Do not pay any money until you have the Coach inspected by a 3rd party.

[Journeyone144]

And it never rains but it pours is really true...

E-Bay also has a bus I could have for 86,000...and it's located in Piedmont S.C.. So I could go some miles off I-95 on my way to Fl..and see this one too..If I could buy the one in S.C..I wouldn't have to take the money from the Bank..

Also it isn't a second Mortgage I'd be taking...I own my house outright the past 11 yrs...

And Jon as usual is so right about maintenance...but at least I hope I'd be able to find it for a prevost...I've had to spend all winter at home because I can't find anyone who can fix the Dolphin Water System Manifold...and how could I even think of asking a Prevost owner like Joe C. to bother with a gas engine RV...which I bet he could have fixed in a heartbeat...

If I get enough help in not making a bad choice in a Prevost I'll be getting much more than I deserve...after all the trouble I've put so many of you to already..

If I get a bus that needs repair except one that keeps me from driving it a little...I would be glad to do the repairs a little at a time to get the cheapest one and not owe the bank a payment the rest of my life...or until my house sells...I do have it in writing that I will pay no Pre-Pay Penalty for paying the loan off anytime I can...and I'll try to make real sure the payment can't be changed...before I touch a dime of that 50,000 from PNC...

I like the one for 115 in Fl. better than the one in S.C. for 86 but I would buy the one that needed the least repair..both have the floor plan I've been looking so hard for..except that the one for 86 is dark wood...Below is the URL for the one in S.C..but I'm concerned about the height of this one until I'm sure it's an XL ...I don't know what "Model: Prevost Liberty 8V-92" means...I think it means the year it was actually built and engine size but not sure.. What I want to be sure of first is it higher than an XL..?? Smile ...I know I have a lot yet to learn..and I'm trying not to make a mistake..

This long winter alone hasn't done me one bit of good...I can't wait to back the Dolphin out the driveway by Monday so please write me back with any advice as soon as you read this...I am going to leave Monday...maybe even tomorrow..

Joe C., if you see this will you please call me...732-458-3480 or anyone else who wants to...

Jon, I know you're right but I have to make a decision..and with my Faith I don't think it could have come at a better time..I never had two at once to choose between before..They're both only two states apart and I'll try to see them both before I make any decision...I'd be happy to pay for some one to look at one of them...at least..either one...

Hey I have the biggest real live headache I've ever had in my life...in every way...Smile... Here I am again ...So Close and Yet So Far...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...1123&viewitem=

Hugs Always Viv...

Good grief, are bus's really this cheep?

[ajducote]

Viv,

If you look at the coach at floridaluxurycoach and you think you might want to buy it, then please walk right across the parking lot to Excalibur Coach and talk to Doug the owner of Excalibur. He is very knowledgeable of the Prevost chassis and most conversions. His hourly rate was about $90 an hour if a I remember correctly. I had work done by his outfit last June and I was very satisfied with the service. It would be well worth $300 to $500 dollars to have Doug give the bus a good inspection and then give you a list of his recommendations. It will be the best money you spend. Especially if the list he gives you is long and expensive. Better to find out before you sign on the dotted line.

[rahangman]

With all of the proffering of help and suggestions, has anyone thought about whatever contract or arrangement this Katz guy had with the actual owner of the bus? Perhaps, our friend who is being bilked has some leeway with the owner of the coach in getting back her $5K. If not, perhaps as one person put it, she has a "downpayment" on a parcel/property and if this is the case, how could it be sold to anyone else? Sounds like a sort of bigamy? Or, if it is sold to someone else (or at least offered) with any sort of deposit being held for an "authorized by owner" entity, would not the actual owner have to clear any claims on the bus e.g. $5000.00 for a deposit? Hmmmmmmm

[Joe Cannarozzi]

The saga continues.

Now she has found 2 Libertys 1 year apart and 30 grand apart.

A quick look at the 85000 one uncovered a OTR a/c system that someone switched from r-12 to 134a and it is currently inop. That right there could cost plenty. We spent 6 grand on ours. It also is a repo. It looks kept up but the old records are probably gone for sure being a repo.

For a guy like me I think even with all that said if all else equal I would certainly not rule it out.

[flyu2there]

Although the coach on E-Bay appears to have been detailed and looks pretty good from 20 feet or so................

What went on inside? That sofa looks like there was a shooting with a less than favorable outcome for the two victims. Even got down onto the carpet by the driver and you know the detailer attempted to clean it. Add 1 sofa, and new carpets!

What's the telephone book covering up? Why all the smell good sachets inside? The light is on inside the refer yet the micro-wave cover is blank.
Add 1 microwave. What is the bedspread doing in the closet? Victim number 3? Add a mattress and new bed spread.

No visible wear on the carpet across from the questionable couch, sofa number two removed? Add I sofa or something other than the spare dining table chairs and an occasional table fresh from Big Lots!

Permanent stain on toilet, also bathroom sink, drain covered in calcium. Add Corian work, new drain, probably galley as well. Covers for sink and stove?
Stains on dining room chairs. Add new cushions, possibly covers.

Outside, whats the series 60 sign covering up? Repair dent or hole.
Agree with Joe, R-134 note appears to be done in Lip Stick. Mirrors operaing sans chrome, probably on glass as well. Add two mirrors.

Where are the 3 heat pumps on the roof they claim? They admit a number of defects in their description. Probably an ok coach for someone who is a decent mechanic, has lots of spare time and money.

[truk4u]

Viv,

The XL's are basically the same right up until 2000 and they will either be an XL (40') or an XLV (45'). Both you are looking at are 40' XL's. The 8V92 is the Detroit engine and was phased out of the buses around 1995.

I'll bet money that 94 Liberty on e-bay will get the price bumped way up by the auction end or they will pull the plug if the bid's aren't high enough and claim it's sold locally.