I"ve seen something on e-bay...advice please..

[JIM CHALOUPKA]

Viv, if you get your money back,here are two more to look at.

http://www.heartlandbus.com/VehicleD...m?StockNo=1439

http://www.heartlandbus.com/VehicleD...m?StockNo=1533

If I remember correctly they meet your criteria everywhere except they do not have two couches.

Not sure if either has cruise control, so ask.

Make a substantially lower offers if you like them. In 18 days they will be one calendar year older.



Good luck, JIM

[Journeyone144]

Hi Ed and Nancy,

I won't ever give up..I've been down about it quite a few times with disappointments but in a day or so I've put it behind me and start looking again...

Years ago I believed it could never happen for me because I'd never have enough money but the last 3 yrs...I knew it was possible..and the hunt really began.. but I also still know ...What Will Be Will Be...

I print out any posts that might help down the road...and this is one of them Ed and Nancy...I'll remember the mechanic mention...but you just forget about that Chain Saw and Crow Bar...LOL..

Hugs Always Viv...

I sent Viv a copy of the ad for my bus and she said she wasnt interested because she wanted a walk thru bath and a side mounted bed.
Maybe if I break out the chainsaw and crow bar I could make that happen for her, and still be, at or below the $100,000.00 she wanted to spend.

P.S. hi Viv, glad to see you didnt give up on buying a bus after all.
Good luck, and if you find one in the massachusetts area I know a good mechanic to check things out for you if you need one.

[Journeyone144]

Hi Jim,

I have no idea what's happening with the Duncannon Lady...Steve Katz never sent me the e-mail with the address to go to..like the first time and it's again 9:00 at night...another all day wait for him...

Thank you for the URL's...
The One #1533 at Heartland has the floor plan...so if the Duncannon Lady doesn't pan out I could start a new hunt with that...but I'd wait until after Christmas before I start looking again...

Hugs Always Viv...

Viv, if you get your money back,here are two more to look at.


http://www.heartlandbus.com/VehicleD...m?StockNo=1533

If I remember correctly they meet your criteria everywhere except they do not have two couches.

Not sure if either has cruise control, so ask.

Make a substantially lower offers if you like them. In 18 days they will be one calendar year older.



Good luck, JIM

[lewpopp]

Viv,

I am reluctant to step in to this do-do but I guess I can find a brush to clean up with.

First of all, if you are at the extent of your ready cash at $100,000, you would be FOOLISH to get a loan on your present home. I don't care if it is a castle, with the way prices are, someone will screw you to the wall knowing that you have promised some of it to purchase the "expensive " bus. The prices of property are down, or don't you know that? You will not get near what you want. Knowing you, no one will be without the knowledge you have a big-ass bus and how much you owe on it, etc., etc.

As for Duncannon, I thought it was familiar. I travel thru there twice a year and it is in the sticks of Pa north of Harrisburg.

You would be a lot better off getting a bus closer to $100,000. But don't listen to me. I just happen to have a 90 for sale, but it has a private toilet. I guess you would rather sit out in the open than have privacy. Hell, who am I trying to convince? You haven't convinced us that this story is real.

Oh, by the way.....I will need only $4900.00 deposit for you to see my coach in sunny Florida.

I'm tired out from reading the saga and writing this. Good nite Viv, sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite.

[Journeyone144]

OOOHHH Bless You Lew...

For the first time in days I feel like I can really laugh ...

You sure read my floor plan likes and dislikes closely didn't you...When I was a kid I developed that phobia..in the outhouse...!!!!

Forget your 4900 deposit too Lew...Not ever again ...lol..

I know you're trying to talk sense to me...but you're not wearing my shoes...Yours fit good but I still feel the pinch of the ones I got from the Children't Home Free once a month when I was a Dirt Poor Kid...and I can still rough it today...and be glad to to realize My Dream...

I hope more here can understand that...you have to have roughed it to be able to...

I slept half the day away today from pure stress...but my daughter was here last night and she's been kind of against my buying the bus, heck it's her inheritance I'll be squandering in her eyes right...but she's realized her dreams already...and admitted she's spent way too many years just working...

Gave me a big hug when she left and said ...Go for it Mom...I know how much it means to you...!!!! and incidently...She has 18 acres of land in Bayville, NJ..and I can park free there...Forever...That's a big help, isn't it...and of course I have half an acre here...

I needed that more than all of you guys approving...As long as I can make ends meet...I'd love to have that bus...and I don't see why I can't take the chance as long as it doesn't doesn't need major repairs...

That's my only worry...Maybe I can make the seller wait until I can get a mechanic to at least go over it before I buy...if all else looks okay to me...What do you think of that...???

Also Max is in the Racing business...he knows the bus...and maybe he'll tell me the truth...I am trusting to a fault I know...I wonder if I should try to call him.....Nooo....of course I haven't...but I did want to...

I don't want anything else in life and I sure can't take the money with me in a hearse...besides maybe Hospitals and Doctors would wind up getting it if I don't use it while I can ... Smile... I don't really expect that tho'...so do I go to Pa. tomorrow or not...??????

The Good Lord's had my angel on my shoulder for over a million miles in my life and I sure trust Him...

All I've ever wanted was to drive...It's the joy of my life..unusual for a woman I know...but I'm my fathers' daughter..he built his own first car...

Just say a prayer for me and I'll go for broke...as long as no one comes back and still thinks it's unsafe for me to go tomorrow...I'd be happy just to be in it for awhile...I'm not afraid now...Bruce took care of that...I have much better feelings about it...
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and to top it all off....I just got this e-mail from Steve Katz...He's been cagey about everything...such a liar...I don't trust him..one iota...

I don't know how he managed to get that time on his e-mail...'cause I just got it a minute ago...and came back to POG to Post it...

Hugs and Always Love for all of you people...Viv...
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----- Original Message -----
From: PrevostTrader
To: Vivian A. McGraw
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Making a last effort to get to...See, Drive, and Inspect..The Bus in Duncannon, Pa...

The bus is located at 12 High St, New Buffalo,Pa 17069. This is very close to the address I originally gave you. It is where it is stored indoors(a very good thing). When you get there look for a sign that says Reaction Graphics and call me at (239)229-8207. I will let Max know you are there.
Remember Max has hired PrevostTrader to handle any business. He is there to show you the coach only.
Here are the directions from Mapquest:
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Viv,

I am reluctant to step in to this do-do but I guess I can find a brush to clean up with.

First of all, if you are at the extent of your ready cash at $100,000, you would be FOOLISH to get a loan on your present home. I don't care if it is a castle, with the way prices are, someone will screw you to the wall knowing that you have promised some of it to purchase the "expensive " bus. The prices of property are down, or don't you know that? You will not get near what you want. Knowing you, no one will be without the knowledge you have a big-ass bus and how much you owe on it, etc., etc.

As for Duncannon, I thought it was familiar. I travel thru there twice a year and it is in the sticks of Pa north of Harrisburg.

You would be a lot better off getting a bus closer to $100,000. But don't listen to me. I just happen to have a 90 for sale, but it has a private toilet. I guess you would rather sit out in the open than have privacy. Hell, who am I trying to convince? You haven't convinced us that this story is real.

Oh, by the way.....I will need only $4900.00 deposit for you to see my coach in sunny Florida.

I'm tired out from reading the saga and writing this. Good nite Viv, sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite.

[Sid Tuls]

Hi Viv,

Why don't you just get hooked up with a outfit like California Coach Sales?? That way you will be able to have the piece of mind that someone is not trying to take advantage of you!! I'am not pushing this outfit but I'am sure he will help ya. My friend bought one from him last week and was very pleased. That other outfit has nothing to offer but head aches!!

[Coloradobus]

Hi Viv,

Its thirteen below here in the Mile High City. Good luck tomorrow, and Chris and I will raise a frosty glass of OJ to you in the morning.

[Journeyone144]

Nooooo Jim & Chris,

I sure hope it's not like that where I'm going...Thanks for the Toast...
I'll toast You all tonight in the motel, with a shot of Chambord...Found a Red Carpet one min. away from Max's Place..!! Smile..

Hugs Always Viv...

Hi Viv,

Its thirteen below here in the Mile High City. Good luck tomorrow, and Chris and I will raise a frosty glass of OJ to you in the morning.

[Journeyone144]

Morning Dear Friends, Get ready for another but last BOOK...

Hopefully this will be the last Post about the Lady In Duncannon or Buffalo, Pa.

Thanks to you Bruce and my printing out this Post of yours...I was able to find Max..

When I got To Buffalo I had just passed a Sign for Duncannon...so I went into a Restaurant near Market St. as the MapQuest Directions Said and called Steve Katz...His phone did not answer at all...after several tries...
It was a very small town so I rode up and down and around town looking for Max Naylor's business...It was nowhere...Then I stopped in a Bar and sure enough the younger people in there knew of him and his Racing with NASCAR...but not until I showed them the picture I'd printed out of Max's Racing Website...They had seen the Tractor Trailers parked on a hill in town..with his advertisement on them..

They gave me directions right straight to Max Naylor...and I never would have found it without their directions...

As I pulled up the steep hill to the Trucks I now saw parked up there too...I also saw a man walking in the yard...He came closer as he saw my car approaching..and then I recognized it was Max himself, from the pictures I'd seen last night on the Net...Bruce...

I told him who I was and asked him if I could see the Lady...He was very pleaant and told me it was right there in a huge warehouse he pointed to...
.Best thing I ever did was go yesterday and see the Lady in Buffalo, Pa..
It was the biggest eyeopener I ever got in my life...You know I'd never been inside a Liberty Elegant Lady...only seen pictures...thought they were all about the same size except for more luxury and some being longer....I drove several of the lower end Prevosts like the 92 Country Coach that I could, would and should have owned 2 whole years by now ...
What I saw yesterday blew my mind..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.It was ten times more beautiful than the pictures...it was PERFECT in every way that I could see and tell...the inside was FABULOUS...!!!! I'll say no more because many of you have seen and lived in one...I hadn't even been in one like this..was always going by pictures...I had no problem at all with the several Pre's I've driven ...but none were this height...12" 8" not counting the Satellite on the Roof...!!!!
Jon, Joe, The engine kicked right over...there is a short intended delay before the Generator kicks over...There was a little oil on a post like part in the Generator..Both ran smoothly...I could see no oil on any tires or hub caps...No scratches or mars anywhere on the Coach...Front tires are new... and bigger rear view mirrors Max had improved for 6K ...he told me... set lower for his preference, and rightly soo..smile...
But it was sooooo high ceilinged I was actually afraid to drive it...Max did offer to let me...He was a wonderful gentleman...It was beyond my wildest Dream...and if I wasn't alone I'd have given everything I have to get it...but I am alone...and I can't do it...
I was in 7th Heaven sitting in that drivers seat but when I looked up I actually felt nauseaus..The ceiling is sooo high..I can't say that enough times..That and the bay doors...keep me from being able to have it...
.Max said don't look up...but I couldn't help it...lol...
What I can't do at all is lift the huge bay doors up and then I can't reach them to pull them back down...So I'd have to have help anytime I wanted to get into a bay...Not good...I've done everything possible to make my Dolphin so I could be independent...
Yesterday I drove my tow car from 9:30 AM..stopping only to spend an hour with Max in and around his Liberty...after two hours ot trying to find his place...eat feed & walk my Maltese Saffy..Arrived home at 11:30 PM...I guess I spent 10 full hours driving...got gas twice...a hot 8 dollars it took the first time to refill and. 9 dollars the second time..tah dahhhh....but I got myself good and lost trying to read the MapQuest Directions backwards to return home...Forget it..Impossible..took 4 hours up to Buffalo, Pa..and 6 or more back to NJ...lol...The tank still reads full...but I think it lies a little..I think I covered at least 600 miles..

That proves I have the stamina to do what I set out to do...

I could transfer my automatic cord winders for the elec.and water from my Dolphin to a bus...but not a 50amp...mine are 30 amp.winders.. I could never pull that 50 amp elec. cord out by myself..much less wind it up again...
The Country Coach I bought in Fl...and never got to bring home...I could open and close the bay doors..they were no where near as big as the Lady's...the ceiling wasn't near as high as the Lady's is...

These are the reasons I can't buy the Lady in Buffalo, Pa...so I'll look for a County Coach like the 92 I missed...at Eagles Pride in Fl...

If anyone here is in the market for a Lady...It's my belief ...you could have a Palace on Wheels...if you looked at Max's...

Someone buy it and take me for a ride in it...Please...

Ever since I waked up this morning I keep wondering if it might not have looked so big outside that warehouse hanger Max keeps it in...the thing looked big enough to hold a jet plane...It was a good walk to the bus parked up in front...

I will find the bus for me...Count on it...I promise...

Merry Christmas...

Hugs Always Love Viv..
PS: Incidently the only thing I didn't like about it was that green stripe that runs around the middle of the Coach...and I told Max...he countered with look what you're wearing ...a green suit...lol...but it's different when the green is in clothes...lol...

Here is some feedback that I have been able to grab on to:

Max Naylor who is listed at the address Viv is supposed to go to below also is listed in New Buffalo Pa. max appears to be in the racing business, builds race cars races etc. his pictures and background all look good, especially if he really owns a 1993 Prevost H340. I bet it is his race Bus, could be good could be bad., but the man is for real, I do not seem to be able to get a number on him.

Max R Naylor
139 Old Trail Rd
Duncannon Pa 17020

48 Mill St
New Buffalo Pa 17069

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If any members are involved in the race business you might have heard of Max Naylor, any clues would be nice.

[0533]

While you are still thinking clearly about the purchase it might be a good idea to draft and send the letter of withdrawal to Steve Katz. Did you tell Max you were not going to purchase the bus?? Was he aware you were coming?? Did you or will you call Max and ask him to ask Steve to return the deposit. Get the due diligence stuff done now.