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[dalej]

Tim,

It looks like you have one of life's most unenjoyable trials (literally) behind you now and one of life's MOST enjoyable trials (figuratively) ahead of you...selecting a bus.

Just remember, for as many members there are as many opinions. I think when you see THE BUS, you will know. Deciding to step into a Prevost conversion is the big one. Which converter, which accessories you should have, is like adding spices, only you can decide what you like.

I have never heard anyone on POG say anything like "I bought the wrong bus"

Best of luck searching.

[edsaylor]

Welcome Tim

I agree with Jon: Get a LIBERTY with OTR, transmission retarder, cruise airs (instead of roof airs), and a single holding tank!!! They can not be beat!

[phorner]

Hi Tim,

Searching for the "perfect" bus is quite an experience, which I'm sure you will enjoy.

Once you're done "looking", take the advice of Jon and Ed.....

and buy a Liberty conversion with OTR REAL BUS AIR, single holding tank, and transmission retarder.

You will be quite the happy camper

[JIM CHALOUPKA]

Tim, X 4 what Jon, Ed, and Paul said. JIM







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[Dooley]

Thank you all for your warm welcome, as well as suggestions.

I am beginning to wonder if only the Liberty men are reading this thread!

As for Liberty's, I love the external paint jobs, but the interiors are a bit formal for me. I will keep looking at them though, perhaps I will find one to my liking.

However, it sounds like what you guys really love about your Liberty's is what is under the skin. I will pay more attention to this......

Thanks again.

Tim

[Jon Wehrenberg]

Those guys are just lurking and us Liberty guys are on high alert for the aerial attack. I believe they are down at the Acme store stocking up.

There is no perfect coach. Around a campfire we could all have a lively debate about the merits of each converter, and about each converter's Achilles heel. No converter owns the prize for poor interior design, nor does any converter own the award for best interior design. Ours is "elaborate" to use polite wording, and it certainly is not going to reflect how we would have designed it, but we have come to really like it because it is completely different from us and how we live. But I can say the same about the products from every converter. We do place the interior a ways down on the list of things that are important.

For us, our priorities are crystal clear. We must have OTR, a private toilet and long range tanks. We have other wants, but the three listed are needs.

We also can bore you to tears with what we like about the coach, but so can other owners of other coaches. My point is these are personal choices, ours being devloped from almost 20 years of Prevost ownership based on how we use our coach.

You will find however both Liberty and Marathon owners tend to be very loyal (with good reason) and will recommend them to others. Just go buy a Liberty and get it over with.

[sawdust_128]

I am beginning to wonder if only the Liberty men are reading this thread!


Tim

No, we're reading. We just know better. Hang in there. You'll catch on. In the mean time, hide your wallet, chain your dog, cage the cat and tell loved one's not to answer the door. Oh yeah, get another phone line and for God's sake don't give out the number and change your email to an aol account. But, if you do nothing else, head this. If you see a Liberty, don't make eye contact with the owner, especially if they are known to be a member of POG.

[Denny]

Tim,

I will start the retaliation. Don't let the Liberty owners mislead you. They have over paid for their rolling bordellos and so to justify their over spending they condemn other converters. All converters start with the same platform, a Prevost, and then convert them. They all talk about their Prevost Over Road Air but my Country Coach OTR puts out 38 to 40 degree air and keeps the coach very cold. If you ask my wife it is too efficient.

I like my roof air over other systems. I don't have to worry about them not functioning because the blacktop underneath the bus is too hot. They are not as sophisticated as others but they are less money to maintain and they function in extremely hot weather when you need AC.

I paid a $100,000 less for my 99 CC than the comparable 99 Liberty I was looking at.

Liberty makes a very nice coach but they do not have a monopoly on nice coaches. There are several good converters out there and several good converters that are no longer in business or having financial difficulties. But their buses are very good.

Many Liberty owners will condemn Country Coach service. They don't own a CC so have no idea about service on a CC. I am 2,000 miles from Junction City so their factory service is of little concern to me. As long as I get a returned phone call from the service techs that is enough for me. I am going to fix the problem myself or take it to a service center that will to it for me.

Well Tim, I think you get my drift. There is a coach for everyone and a lot of very good coaches out there. What ever you decide on use this POG site for help. There are experts here on every conversion out there and every one is willing to help you with any problems you may experience.

[GDeen]

Got home this evening from AR in my new Marathon with OTR. Liberty doesn't have that market cornered! Made for nice sledding in the 106 deg heat of central TX.

Most guys on here are lucky I don't have their phone number. The ones that do, get calls from me on the road telling them how much fun I am having. I am sure that will blow over some day - maybe not.

After looking and looking, I believe as Jon has said many times you will know which bus is for you when you see it. There are owners of multiple converters here and as you have read, no one is bad mouthing their own bus. That tells me decide what systems and layout you need, stick to the list and the right bus will jump out at you irrespective of the converter. Stuff like sofas and chairs can be easily made or altered.

Good luck!

[Alek&Lucia]

Hello Tim,

Like Ed said: "...We're here.We just know better..."
There are many conversions with factory Prevost OTR and quality craftsmanship. If you ask more questions you will learn that some of us switched Marathons for Country Coaches, and then for Libertys, or went from Libertys to Royales, etc etc.
Another thing, my neighbor, Joe C. said something which I like very much that everybody should take under consideration: " Thanks to POG there is no Orphan Prevost Conversion ". Don't miss a good one !
I said this long time ago: soo many Prevost soo little time.

Alek