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    I figured it out. The delay control is ac in DC out there is a transformer in the delay.

    The reason I was told as to the dc coils is ac coils make a buzz when engaged dc coils r quiet.

    So then what about the buzz off the inverters????? WTF can't have that. LOL. Let the truth be known unmuffled buzzing from inverters thats a points deduction for a prevo.

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    I believe the delay modules are for the following:

    1. 30 second delay for external power cord/shore power. Is to present a very light load as you are plugging the cable in; so that it doesn't arch and burn the contacts.
    2. Three minute delay for generator input is to help the generator get stabilized before drawing power from it.

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    Depending on age, cleanliness, etc., many people report significant buzzing from the AC coils that they find objectionable. For what its worth, we replaced my dads with a unit using AC coils.


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    The delays r also the transformer and since I got one ill use the quieter dc coil.
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    Sorry guys, I let a typo get by me ... we put DC coils in my dads coach.


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    I'm going to bench test the delay transformer before I use it I got a sneaky suspicion the delay was all that was wrong with this entire panel I pulled from the garbage. I wonder what this stuff is worth? The complete panel and then the contacters and delay separate anybody wanna guess?
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    Here is another throw away I've hung on to. Its a transformer from a marathon with digital meters we switched to analog. Is it specific to a digital meter? Think so but not sure. I've got 4 of them. Dont care for digital meters im sticking with analog. If I'm correct ill never use them.

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    Default One-Wire Temperature Sensors

    I absolutely love One-Wire sensors and have made liberal use of them in my bus.

    A One-Wire device communicates via a single signal pin and can work up to 200ft with twisted pair wiring. So just three wires to handle signal, power and ground that works as a distributed electrical sensor bus.

    Here's how they are hooked up to my Raspberry Pi controller for the bus:



    Another value point is that they are less than $3.00 a sensor for general use and around $20.00 for the inline liquid temperature sensing.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Note for the liquid sensor you want the 30mm version to use on a 1/2 pipe tee.

    Each sensor has a unique ID that must be determined by adding one sensor at time and determining which id is the new one.

    Here's the twelve sensors that I currently have installed in my bus.

    //
    // One Wire Id's DS18b20 Temperature Sensor
    //
    4D18940B0000 Hydronic output
    1B6EE10B0000 Diesel boiler output
    AA8B11481401 Generator Bay
    AA35AF481401 Fresh Water Tank
    AAF6A0481401 Forward Bay
    AAC09E481401 Mid Bay
    AA01BF471401 Battery Bay
    AAE595481401 Plumbing Bay
    F854950B0000 Engine Coolant (heater hose input to Glycol Heater/Tank 2)
    AA9EA9481401 Under bus outside air temperature
    AAF58F471401 Refrigerator
    AAA09A481401 Freezer

    This makes it very easy to monitor/alarm or automate desired functionality.

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    Default Inverter Node-Red Automation Bling

    I just added my first bit of automation bling to manage the AC power inverter on my bus.



    I have a high power inverter 6KW (up to 18KW surge) that has a standby consumption of about 100 watts. So if it is left on 24/7 it will use 2.4KW of power. Given that my house battery bank currently stores about 9KW, that can be a major chunk of the out of the storage capacity.

    Obviously not as much of a problem when the sun is shining and is generating solar power.

    So anyway this node-red flow monitors the inverter while it is on and automatically shuts it down; when it has been idle for ten minutes. If there is a large draw it automatically extends the time period.

    The bling aspect of this flow is that it is Alexa enabled!!! Alexa responds to the following commands:

    Alexa, inverter on
    Alexa, inverter off
    Alexa, inverter status

    Alexa responses OK to the off and on commands. For the status command it says OK and then does an announcement with the current status.



    When it automatically shuts down the inverter; it does another announcement "Ding, message". On my Alexa show it also shows the text besides speaking it.



    Note: Since all your Alexa devices are in group. I can command things to happen on the bus while I am at home...

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    This is way cool, thanks for sharing.


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