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    Default Supplemental braking systems

    I have a 1997 Liberty and want to tow a 2012 Buick Enclave. I have looked at "M&G Engineering" system, an "air" system. Liberty said many of their folks are using them. Also looked at the "US Gear" system. Both permenantly installed. Any thoughts or other ideas are appreciated. Don

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    The M & G unit requires placing part of the system in-line with the brake booster, and often times, depending on the tow car, there is insufficient space to allow it's installation.

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    The U.S. Gear system involves placing a pully on the brake pedal. An installation picture is attached.
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    The units we have installed by far the most are Air Force One, for Diesel engine units with air brakes, or Stay-n-play Duo for gas rigs with hydraulic brakes. They offer break-away feature as part of the system (not an add-on option as with M & G). See pictures below.

    afo_02.jpgafo_01.jpgafo.jpgafo_Vacuum-Diagram.jpg

    Hope this information helps.
    Ben Cummings
    U.S.A. Luxury Coaches, LLC
    Clearwater, FL

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    If there is room for the M&G it is very good,I have it on a Chevrolet Silverado and Saturn Vue.The installation is very easy and you can also purchase a break away system from them.

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    I have had no problems with Air Force One system, installed on Tahoe. Gary

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    I recommend SMI's Air Force 1. Like Ben stated, the M&G will not fit some, maybe many newer, cars. I installed the AF1 on a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and 2012 Ford Explorer. The the installations on the cars myself. I don't crawl under my coach so Coachworx installed the components on my coach.


    Gil and Durlene
    2003 H-3 Hoffman Conversion

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    I have an Air Force One installation on my 2009 Enclave. It was installed two years ago (20,000Mi). Absolutely no problems!


    Larry and Sandy Dahlin
    2003 Liberty Elegant Lady XL-II

    2009 Buick Enclave

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    AF1 on a Jeep Cherokee, early this year. No problems to date. The AF1 can be transferred to another vehicle if necessary.

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    How important is it to have supplemental braking in the vehicle (car or trailer) being towed by a Prevost? Is there a weight threshold?

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    Not to Hijack this thread,

    But we just purchased an 07 marathon and was wondering if anyone knew if they had factory installed electric brake controllers factory installed? We tow a horse trailer that requires it.... I didn't see it and forget to ask.

    Thanks

    Fogs

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    Dick, Supplemental braking and a break-away feature are required in Canada. The requirements for braking in the USA are listed here: http://home.roadrunner.com/~morodat/...-by-state.html If you don't have braking and are involved in an accident it could be a liability issue. Most of us have gone through the same thought process you're going through and I believe most of us have ended up with supplemental braking.

    As an aside. It is helpful to all of us if you would add a signature to your posts. If you include your coach and maybe your towed vehicle it will make it easier to answer your questions. Additionally it helps us to get to know you. To do so, open the "Settings" tab at the top of the page. You will see "Edit Signature" listed on the left.
    Last edited by BrianE; 11-02-2012 at 11:21 PM.

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