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    Jim -

    Thanks for your post. I thought for a minute there I was losing it when I read I had a Valid slide. Ha. Not that my memory is not getting weak. Knock on wood, our slides have been trouble free. Prevost has checked the roof a few times when we have been in for other service to make sure their slide remains leak free.

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    Tuga,I said the "majority" I really don't think that Marathon and Featherlite are in the running when you total up the converted coaches from the last few years.I do know that Prevost will repair all of their slides that they have ever built and I also think hat they are engineered very well.

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    Thanks for all of the very useful info everyone! One other question i was thinking about is this particular coach i'm looking at has the larger bedroom slide (super slide?). Has there been any problems with that beings it is so big?

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    Is there any maintenance to the inside workings of the prevost slides like ujoints, pillar blocks etc. I think the slide would have to come out to do this?

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    Gary & Lise Deinhard, 2003 Elegant Lady Liberty, Dbl slide

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    our 2000 Prevost Vantare has a 17 ft slide HWH on the drivers side which slides the couch and full kitchen,
    It works great it moves allot of air so we always leave the door open and a window when we open or close it or it could cause enough pressure to blow a window out because it is moving so much air so quickly,

    Larry & Nancy
    Midwest
    2000 45ft Prevost Featherlight Vantare XL 17ft slide, an Overbuilt Motorcycle lift and sterling tow bar to take lots of fun with us
    2012 Black Jeep Rubicon OEM Lift Bilstein shocks, PowerPlant Duel Force Warn 9,500 lb Air/Winch
    1998 FLSTS Custom harley
    One Chocalate Lab " Rooster " Our Baby !!!

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    That's what I do also.

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    We have HWH slideouts... with the wiper effect seal and its awesome... never have to worry about air leaks in the seals which has happened to a few members and the new seals were back ordered so they ended up waiting almost 3 months for the new seals to come in...not to mention replacing it was challenging for them. I would not have been a happy camper about that, however someone said they changed manufacturers of the air seals so maybe that was during the transition? Anyone know?
    HWH seals are simple and cheap to replace, don't leak and no squeaking or wind noise... most plastic coaches have HWH slides so they have builts thousands of them.We have had 7 HWH slides without a problem... I have heard only good things about Valid slides too... Newell for one wouldn't touch them if they weren't good.
    It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me unless the bay doors hinged from the bottom... I couldn't handle that.
    Can't imagine Marathon using a bad slideout either.




    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradobus View Post
    Gil and others,
    Marathon is still building coaches to start with. The coaches that JDUB and Alan and Mary Kay have are XLII's with Prevost installed slides. Prevost slides key distinguishing feature, is the raised up floor or step-up.
    Marathon equipped slide coaches pre-2000 model XLII shell (RIVET coaches), using Rogue Coach slideroom installs. Marathon Coach 700, an 2001 build XLII 45 has the first Prevost installed slides for a Marathon Coach.
    Some coaches (XL 40 and 45's RIVETED) had sliderooms installed by Rogue in Medford Oregon, before Marathon did the connersion, and there are some XL45 and XLII 45's out there that coach owners had slides installed by Rogue.They went belly up in 2003. Most notable, on www.Prevostsales.com there is 1996 40 ft Marathon Coach 409, green and white checkboard paint job with Rogue slides, was slided before Marthon converted it, have bottom hinged driverside baydoors. Bottom hinged baydoors is a signature Rogue Coach feature.
    Another example of a coach whose past owners ( we know them, Bob and Ann Chambers) had Rogue do the slides, is found at http://www.transwestrv.com/pre_owned...R0&veh=2576590 is 1998 Marathon Coach 501, XL45 (Rivets) kitchen slide. Marathon did not build any kitchen slide XLI or XLII's so the 2001 XLII that showed up on Ebay last year was done later. There is another 2001 Marathon XLII 45 that periodiacally shows up on Ebay out of Washington state, with bottom hinged bay doors. This coach was converted to slides after Marathon built it regardless of what was said in that Ebay ad description..
    The 2001 Country Coach XLII 40 that is silver and black painted featured on this forum main page was built originally as a no slide. It now sports a single slide that Rogue did. you can see it at http://www.motorhomefinders.com/rvs/...40'-S%2fO/
    Today, Panterra Coach has all the "rights" to Rogue Coach slideroom technology. Another different characteristic of Rogue slides, they have a squeegee system to seal the slideroom instead of the air filled inner tube. This I believe is what Vantare used on some of their coaches and still do.
    One key feature of HWH and Valid slides, like Tuga's Newell is the flat floor configuration.
    Marathon used HWH slides in their H3-45's up to 2004. While the Marathon XLII had Prevost slides.
    An exception are the few (4) 40 foot XLII Marathon did in 2003. These 40 footers have a single salon slide done by the British Columbia company VALID. Marthon in later year models, especially in coaches with 3 and 4 slides we were told, liked the Valid slide for its robust characteristics.
    American Carriage, which is no longer, had the ability to do a full wall slide done with Prevost's blessing using a bridge/truss formation in the coach underbelly. I don't know if Mark at Carriage ever built one though before he shut.

    Rule of thumb.
    Bottom hinged baydoors under slide whether an XLI or XLII is a signature characteristic of Rogue Coach Medford Ore
    Flat Floor salon area with slide, HWH (Iowa) or Valid (B.C. Canada)
    Step up floor to slide, Prevost installed
    Squeegee slideroom seal, either Rogue, Vantare
    Air bladder seal, HWH, Prevost, Valid
    One key downside to HWH sliderooms, particularly salon slide, the room must be removed for air bladder replacement.$$$ Cheapest repair facility is HWH.
    HWH bedroom slide can be teased to recess into the coach like the prevost rooms, reducing seal replacement cost.
    This is to the best of my memory since we did own Country Coach 60449 2 HWH slides a, 2001 MSO on a 1999 XLI rivet Shell with 2 HWH slides,
    2001 Marathon XLII 45 single slide glued stainless Coach 740, a 2000 model year with Prevost installed single slide
    Last edited by Seabyrd; 10-28-2012 at 12:45 PM.

    Larry & Diane Byrd
    Lufkin Texas.
    2005 Liberty Elegant Lady H3-45
    1998 Vantare H3-45 D/S SOLD
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    Several years back, Marathon Coach signed an exclusive with Valid to put quad slides in both XL2's and H3-45's for them.

    We converted several 40-ft XL's that had the Valid slides, and as far a reliability, they seem to be as good or better than the Prevost factory slides (especially Generations 1-3). The latest version for Prevost, with the linear bearings on the lower side only, and no upper gear rack, has been the equalizer to that fact and have proven to be the best design Prevost has ever had.

    Benefits to the Prevost slides:
    1) The structural weight advantage from Prevost increased rigidity during the shell manufacturing process, rather than the "after-market" approach of welding in a giant truss system on that side of the coach in the bays, resulted in about a 1000-1500 lbs less weight for the shell upon arrival, as compared to any other after-market slides we have seen. In addition, the Prevost method allowed for better access to the bays on the driver's side of the coach (i.e. you could have a pass-thru slideout tray if desired).
    2) Ease of pneumatic seal replacement. The Prevost slide rooms were designed to retract the extra 5-inches inside the coach to allow seal change without removing the room or dismantling the interior to allow the room to hyper-extend out far enough to gain access to the seal (the case with Valid), or having to remove the room all-together (the case with the Flat-Floor H.W.H. with a pneumatic seal).

    Benefit to Valid slides:
    They have had immense issues with their seal vendor, and we have seen some coaches requiring one or both seals to be replaced more than one time. I believe they have gotten this issue under control now, but the fact remains that a lot of seals were replaced during this vendor issue and could still have issues in the future.
    Valid has had an EXTREMELY good track record with their pneumatic seals over time, as compared to every other slide room manufacturer which had inflating pneumatic seals.
    Ben Cummings
    U.S.A. Luxury Coaches, LLC
    Clearwater, FL

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    We have also had great experience with Valid Slides. The few minor problems we have had have been easily repaired, and very inexpensive. I would agree with Ben, that they are a more reliable slide than the early Prevost slides. Their tech support is also very good, and they are quite easy to service/repair.
    Steve & Rhonda Bennett
    Dana Point, CA
    92 Marathon XL40
    2012 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited
    Owner: California Coach Company, LLC

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