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    While replacing a failed macerator pump this week I ended up taking apart all the copper piping in the waste water bay to provide easy access to the macerator pump (and to polish the piping to make plastic piping owners envious).

    While this post is the perfect opportunity for those not having a coach with such spectacular appearing plumbing to poke fun at us, let this be considered a word of caution for those that do have the pretty polished copper piping.

    About 3 or 4 years ago the piping that goes from the top right fitting into the top of the tank at the right (Not shown in the photos) was replaced on my coach. I had just gotten through polishing my slack adjusters and was working on the copper and I noticed the pipe had perforated due to some corrosion that began inside the pipe.

    Now the pipe I made to replace the original is showing signs of internal corrosion and its life is limited.

    The piping assembly that extends from the center top of the compartment, and two fittings on the tank to the gray water by-pass valve is also showing signs of significant corrosion and in spots of the assembly it is paper thin. It also had extensive internal build up of a black material that would break off in hard chunks. The life of this tubing assembly is also limited.

    The centrally located tube which extends from the bottom of the holding tank to the macerator inlet is sound and free of evidence of corrosion. The tube which extends from the top LH fitting to the top of the tank on the left is also free of build up or corrosion.

    The photos show the blue corrosion on one of the tubes which indicates the copper is being eaten away. We do not use chemicals other than soap or dishwashing soap so I have no idea what would be causing the corrosion. I chipped some of the black scale from the pipe interior so it is not possible to see how occluded the pipe had become despite being relatively new.

    On the photo of the piping the assembly, the left hand side tubing assembly is the second one I consider life limited. The upper portion of this assembly under the clamp at the rubber connector already had perforated completely through, but because of its location I can get more use out of it. It will not be long before I have to remake that assembly.

    The last photo shows a 3/4" stub sticking out to the right of the tubing leading to the gray water by-pass. I am revising the macerator discharge so it is introduced to the waste line at that point. As it has been plumbed it exits at the top of the bay and makes a convoluted path to the hose bib at the rear of the bus. It will now share the hose bib with the gray water by-pass. I will post pictures when I am done. I did this to significantly reduce back pressure on the pump by shortening the discharge piping.

    My reason for posting this is to alert those with this type of waste water piping to be alert to potential tubing perforations, with the result possibly being a leak of waste water into the bay. Sometimes plastic is good. It is just not as pretty.
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    You know what to expect, now, after you post pictures of that magnificent copper tubing/piping.

    Incoming.

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    Geritol Alert!
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    I kind of expected all sorts of flak, but apparently as this group ages, it also gets mellow. Skiffer wanted me to post that I disassembled the piping to polish the inside. Now we all know that is a little over the top.

    I did it once but it was too much work.

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    Well, thanks for the heads up Jon, but I don't look forward to all that work.

    Did you consider Stainless piping to keep all metals in the correct order in the periodic table?

    Plastic! Wasn't that the word in "Mrs. Robinson" the movie?

    If you get the copper gold plated it will not corrode and you will not have to polish it

    JIM

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    Well Jon, I am truly sorry to see your problems with your Liberty pipes. No negative comments!
    Dale & Paulette

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Brewer View Post
    You know what to expect, now, after you post pictures of that magnificent copper tubing/piping.

    Incoming.
    Beauty is only skin deep...

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    Hi John. When you think about it, copper is vulnerable to minerals and corrosive chemicals. In Sceince labs we do work on, the waste lines are glass. In homes it's either cast iron or plastic. In the street its either concrete, clay or plastic pipes. There are companies who will come into facilities where copper water lines are leaking and dry the pipes out, blast them clean and coat the inside of the pipes with an epoxy like substance.
    Gary & Lise Deinhard, 2003 Elegant Lady Liberty, Dbl slide

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    Jon
    Are your gate valve metal also?
    GregM

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    The gate valve is a Valterra plastic valve available at Camping World and painted gold.

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