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    Default Generator 1 Second Run Issue

    After reading Gordon's woes, I've seen to develop my own. Before I place the call the Kohler thought I would try the brain trust.

    2000 Marathon H3, Kohler 20kw, Yanmar Engine.

    Oil and coolant levels right on.

    Starts and runs for 1/2 to 1 second like a champ. Then immediately dies. Absolutely not a fuel starvation issue as I've had plenty of experience with that.

    It will run perfectly if I keep the GEN START button on the dash pushed in. Finger off and it stops immediately. And no, the starter is not grinding away during this process.

    With some help from Trukman I unabled the Auto Start to remove that from the formula.

    Where is a good point to start looking?

    Thanks for any advice.

    Mike
    Last edited by MangoMike; 12-28-2009 at 07:13 PM.

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    Wow - you must have ESPN or something Mike. I just posted the favorable outcome of a trip to a Kohler service center while you were posting this.

    Mine was a governor or speed control setting problem. I could see that also being a potential issue with your symptoms. If after starting, the speed control takes over and is not sending the proper fuel mix it could kill the engine immediately. Mine was sending too much fuel apparently. Pure backside extraction but could be plausible.

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    Gordon,

    The more you learn the less you know. Thanks for another check point.

    m

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    Default generator

    I had same problem with Power tech generator and it was the solenoid failing. It was the one on the Generator that activated when you shut generator down with the switch on the dash. Very inexpensive part. dan
    Danss 1999 Vogue, 03 Chev. Trailblazer

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    Dan,

    Can you give us the part #, and where you got the replacement,

    Alek

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    Default Solenoid

    It was put in by Parliment and I assume they got at local Auto parts house but I do not have a clue as to the part number. Sorry. Dan
    Danss 1999 Vogue, 03 Chev. Trailblazer

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    Default Problem Solved

    Kevin Erion wins the Jerk Chicken Dinner via parcel post for his correct diagnosis of the problem.

    Failed Injector pump fuel solenoid.

    yanmar-2230.jpg
    This is the solenoid removed.

    yanmarhole-2232.jpg
    Side of the injector pump. You can put your finger in the hold to manipulate the fuel valve to see if the engine will run. I have to admit I didn't try this, but saw the tech from Kohler succesfully make it happen.

    yanmarattach-2236.jpg
    This is with the solenoid in place. This is now an internal solenoid setup.


    On the older gensets this was an external setup and you could see the actuator arm extend from the solenoid into the side of the ejector pump to verify it was working. On my unit w/ the internal setup you had no way of knowing if the solenoid was working or not.
    Last edited by MangoMike; 01-15-2010 at 07:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MangoMike View Post
    Gordon,

    The more you learn the less you know. Thanks for another check point.

    m
    What Mango said. Thanks.

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    Kohler installed a new solenoid today, which they swore was the problem.

    No go - so Kevin send back the Jerk Chicken.

    Will post results after they repost on Tuesday.

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    Maybe it's the power going to the solenoid? It would act the same, but changing the unit wouldn't matter.

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