Fogged glass FIX

[michaeldterry]

Thanks for the input Mike! I'm sure it's good advice. In the meantime, I've sent an e-mail to the President of Suncoast Designers asking for a price on repairing my driver's window with their process if I have my local shop remove and ship it to them.

I don't know why this is, but the local glass shop (Binswanger - a huge company with locations nationwide) that I originally took it to won't touch it (or replace it with a single pane) citing something nebulous about DOT restrictions. I didn't get it....

[Darrell and Linda]

We just had the drivers and passenger (door) slider windows replaced. The driver's slider was collecting water between the panes. I could have put gold fish in there.....Anyways, these two windows lost their seal and were badly fogged up (common with these windows). I arranged for the local glass company, came to my house and replaced both sealed slider windows with a 1/4" laminate glass.... it is tinted too and cost 189.90. I know its not DOT but.......

[jelmore]

You all that have done that window replacement, is your frame painted to match the coach? On mine, it looks like the paint overlaps the caulk around the fixed window. It has chipped in a few places exposing the caulk. If yours is painted like that, how do they detail that area?

[Darrell and Linda]

Our window frame is painted a dark grey and with the new neoprene chalking / seal for the new glass is black. It looks good. Close inspection of the fixed window chalking showed signs of drying out /cracking. It was originally black in color. I don't know what they used before as a sealant but it is drying out. I talked to the glass guy and you can purchase this neoprene chalking from glass companies or body shop supply outfits and reseal yourself.

I can understand if your color on the window frame is a light color the black sealant would stand out. I don't believe there is a selection of colors of caulking. But you never know.

[Darrell and Linda]

Michael, I feel the same way as you. I couldn't understand why the toll window was a double pane in the first place. After a few years, look around, everyone looses the seal. I think the problem is that movement (sliding back and forth causes the lost of a seal). Hey, the widows that were placed in my coach are a laminate,, simular to the windshield.

I went to a smaller local glass company. I mentioned to them that I understood that the glass didn't meet DOT.....and If they didn't mind, I didn't.... you know "Top secret stuff" ..... cash deal

[michaeldterry]

I went to a smaller local glass company. I mentioned to them that I understood that the glass didn't meet DOT.....and If they didn't mind, I didn't.... you know "Top secret stuff" ..... cash deal

Thanks Darrell - I'm going to skulk around see if I can find a local "outlaw" company who can/will rise to the challenge in exchange for cash and a promise of secrecy!

[Jon Wehrenberg]

It is no big deal to get a single piece side glass to replace the thermopane and it can meet the DOT requirements. It just has to be tempered so if it should break it will not be razor sharp shards, but will fracture into BB sized pellets.

The glass supplier can cut it to size, send the piece out to be tempered and then you have a glass that is correct and will not hurt you if it should break. It may seem OK to wink and look the other way, but why take a chance and have a glass right next to you that could give you a very severe cut. The alternative is safety glass like the windshield, but that does get expensive and difficult.

[gmcbuffalo]

Why does it have to be double pane? I can understand it not splintering but breaking many small pieces. but the double pane is a wonder/

[AmeriStar]

A double pane window will not frost on the interior in very cold weather.

[BrianE]

Greg, In previous threads it has been surmised that the dual pane side windows might help prevent interior fogging on a seated bus which could be much more of a problem than in a motor coach. We replaced our side windows with tinted safety glass in both of our buses. For us, it has proven to be a significant improvement over dealing with the interior fogging of the original dual pane setup. It is also a much less expensive fix.