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    Our window frame is painted a dark grey and with the new neoprene chalking / seal for the new glass is black. It looks good. Close inspection of the fixed window chalking showed signs of drying out /cracking. It was originally black in color. I don't know what they used before as a sealant but it is drying out. I talked to the glass guy and you can purchase this neoprene chalking from glass companies or body shop supply outfits and reseal yourself.

    I can understand if your color on the window frame is a light color the black sealant would stand out. I don't believe there is a selection of colors of caulking. But you never know.

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    Michael, I feel the same way as you. I couldn't understand why the toll window was a double pane in the first place. After a few years, look around, everyone looses the seal. I think the problem is that movement (sliding back and forth causes the lost of a seal). Hey, the widows that were placed in my coach are a laminate,, simular to the windshield.

    I went to a smaller local glass company. I mentioned to them that I understood that the glass didn't meet DOT.....and If they didn't mind, I didn't.... you know "Top secret stuff" ..... cash deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell and Linda View Post
    I went to a smaller local glass company. I mentioned to them that I understood that the glass didn't meet DOT.....and If they didn't mind, I didn't.... you know "Top secret stuff" ..... cash deal
    Thanks Darrell - I'm going to skulk around see if I can find a local "outlaw" company who can/will rise to the challenge in exchange for cash and a promise of secrecy!

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    It is no big deal to get a single piece side glass to replace the thermopane and it can meet the DOT requirements. It just has to be tempered so if it should break it will not be razor sharp shards, but will fracture into BB sized pellets.

    The glass supplier can cut it to size, send the piece out to be tempered and then you have a glass that is correct and will not hurt you if it should break. It may seem OK to wink and look the other way, but why take a chance and have a glass right next to you that could give you a very severe cut. The alternative is safety glass like the windshield, but that does get expensive and difficult.

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    On the way home from Oklahoma, we stopped at Suncoast Designers in Hudson, FL to have our driver and passenger side windows replaced. Over the past year, they had fogged considerably.

    They were very familiar with Prevost busses and they did a very good job of taking care of us. Two of our glass panels had to be replaced as they were beyond cleaning and polishing. The process they use replaces the seal and the whole window "sandwich" is run through a machine that both heats and compresses the window.

    The "new" windows look great.

    One word of caution: although they were extremely careful in removing the old window glass, we did end up with a couple of very small paint chips at the edge of the window frame. The original paint is lapped onto the glass and a cut must be made at this seam. This occurred where there was a small amount of electrolysis corrosion which had slightly lifted the paint. They were very clear that this was a possibility in spite of all the precautions.

    If you are considering having this done, I would strongly consider this facility.
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    Paul, the "electrolysis corrosion" you mention in the window frame is probably typical in our coaches, as is the paint overlapping the caulk which I think is not the best way to detail this area. Based on what you've seen, what do you think about removing the entire window frame from the body, taking out all the glass and caulk, repairing the corrosion, repainting the frame and then installing the glass so there is no overlap of paint over the caulk. Is it possible for that to be a tidy installation, or does that overly complicate things?

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    In my opinion, since there is a black border on the Prevost installed window glass, I would be tempted to mask off the window frame and prime and paint it black as well.

    I have seen a couple of Prevost busses that have had the frames replaced, and they were black, and the look was very nice.

    There was a small amount of electrolysis corrosion on the driver side window frame when I bought the bus which was sanded off and re-painted when we took delivery. It was this "new" paint than seemed to be more prone to slight chipping. I have some of the leftover paint from that job, so I might try to touch it up.

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    Can anybody give me instructions for removing the drivers sliding window for glass replacement - before I screw everything up?

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    Why does it have to be double pane? I can understand it not splintering but breaking many small pieces. but the double pane is a wonder/

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    A double pane window will not frost on the interior in very cold weather.

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