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    Default 2005 Liberty New Price

    Over on the Prevost-Stuff side there is a 2005 Liberty with double slides with 60,000 miles with a new reduced price for $499,000.I think that this coach sold for $1,000,000 about two years ago.This is an incredible buy and I think that it is a good coach.

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    Default Where is the bottom??

    Keep thinking that coach prices are at the bottom......here's another. 97 Vanatare, 38k miles, lo time generator...ask is 142k. 21 day listing, 11 days remain and no takers......

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1997-...=p4506.c0.m245


    Looks like all it needs is a plastic shield!

    John

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    John, with respect to that plastic shield comment.....have you been above 12.5 again without oxygen?

    It might be low because it is a 40 footer, but I think the real reason is Vantare has soiled their own nest. When they are having a hard time dumping brand new coaches with slides for under $800,000 that tells the world what they think of their product.

    I don't think they are supporting their owners as well as they could either so when you combine that with the fact that trying to finance a 97 is tough if not impossible, it becomes a buyer's market. When the economy recovers these are not like shares of stock. They will not appreciate and all owners can hope is that they will depreciate at a slower rate or at best retain some value. That eliminates the speculators.

    Besides, it does not have OTR, otherwise it would sell in a heartbeat.

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    Jon,

    I think you will find that 40 foot coaches are at least as popular as the 45's out here on the left coast, if not more.....back to that California combined length limit law. A 40' with IFS can be parked just about anywhere and can wrangle its way around some pretty "iffy" roads without worry of roadside negotiations with the local constable.

    My thought is that Joe Baggadonuts would be more likely to opt for a very low mileage coach vice shall we say a "high timer". I would bet money that the guy upgrading from something akin to a Winnebago Chief will be the buyer and he is still convinced that, like his Winnebago, it will be junk once that odometer rolls past 100k, no its not logical but I think that is the reality.

    I cannot comment on Vanatare, just do not know anything about them or their history however for the aforementioned buyer, he too would likely not care. Same with OTR air, as long as he can make it cool inside (no pun intended) he would be happy.

    At the end of the day, what I see is a coach that is priced way down there and agreed, it probably will not appreciate in any of our lifetimes however, at that price, it brings a new kind of buyer to the table. What is surprising is that there have been no takers thus far; I would wager that somewhere between 125 and 130k, cash, would take that coach, yet it remains unsold.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyu2there View Post
    Jon,

    .... What is surprising is that there have been no takers thus far; I would wager that somewhere between 125 and 130k, cash, would take that coach, yet it remains unsold.

    John
    Maybe cuz you would still have a pink bus no matter the price???

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    Not so fast. The aforementioned coach, like its Ebay-mate has had numerous price changes up and down over the months I have been watching them. This Marathon has had a fire, so whats really wrong with the 40ft Vantare?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-...245#v4-28ioned This is a new "buy it now" price, it was B.I.N. for $114K earlier last week.
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    They admit that the Marathon has a salvaged title, aka the kiss of death...good luck at trying to insure that beast, save maybe some PL/PD and you will pay a premium for that!

    Dunno if the Vanatare is a pig in the poke or not, what remains is that it is priced what appears to be very right.

    This falling price thing is not just with coaches, have a look at some of the big boat sites, amazing! Airplanes too, just bought an O-470 engine complete, yellow tagged servicable with 400 SMOH for 2300.00...oouch!!

    John

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    Oh No, John,

    Its not the market, it's a whim what will be the price on a certain day.

    Both of these coaches have had various prices for "BUY IT NOW". The fire damaged Marathon a few weeks ago was as low as B.I.N. $104K. The Vantare has been as low as $137K and as high as $152K. These prices aren't a steady decline because of market pricing, they go up and they down. Watch both of these coaches, the listings never end, but the pricing change is almost a daily occurence. It wasn't too long ago when the Fire damaged Marathon was selling for $104K, and now its UP at $125K. It doens't make sense!
    Last edited by Coloradobus; 08-13-2009 at 03:21 PM.
    Jim and Chris
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    Here's a 97 Marathon with OTR and is listed at Desert West for $165,000 asking! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MARAT...=p4506.c0.m245

    Of course, you would have to like green (which I do, but Louise doesn't).
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    Tuga,

    The green Marathon Coach 1997, Coach #479 VIN-2P9M33497S1001565 is no longer at Desert West. It was a GE bank repo and Big Sky Wholesalers/Phoenix bought it and have it listed on Ebay. Rumour has it, the bank could possibly accept $175K or $170K, which is more than what it was priced at Desert West.

    Look closely at the photos of this coach. The generator and bus motor have a been touched up badly. I was told by one of the listors that this coach had a DDEC #4??? The side drivers dash is rough. More photos can be found at www.azrv4less.com and hunt for 1997 prevost in the list of jpg's.
    Last edited by Coloradobus; 08-13-2009 at 03:52 PM.
    Jim and Chris
    2001 Featherlite Vogue XLV 2 slide with Rivets-current coach, 1999 shell
    Previous 22 years,
    We have owned every kind of Prevost shell but an H3-40

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