Unusual front axle steer trailer, your thoughts?

[truxton]

Elliot

Dan with Competitive trl built it, he said he did about 10 setup like that. I'll text you his number he's semi retired in Havasu close to you. He's a good man he skinned 2 of my stackers.

Marathon never had anything to do with those trailers.

Later
bv

[Elliott]

Elliot

Dan with Competition trl built it, he said he did about 10 setup like that. I'll text you his number he's semi retired in Havasu close to you. He's a good man he skinned 2 of my stackers.

Marathon never had anything to do with those trailers.

Later
bv

Thanks Bernie, I appreciate it, I'll contact Dan

[Joe Camper]

I know a guy in port orange fl with one. Never seen it pulled just sits in the hanger I believe it was a package deal when he bought his bus. Everything so far that's been said is pretty correct

IMHO their shortfall is their empty weight. Do u want to be approaching 80,000 CGVW with a full trailer?

Marathon coach was not affiliated with them but the manufacturer was Marathon trlr.

The one I saw the inside forward third was finished out looked like a continuation of the inside of the bus.

If pulled with a 54000 lb bus loaded with 2 cars plus gear I think u would exceed 80,000.

Remember Jeff Baily he was that screwball we had here for a while. He pulled one empty and said he'd never do it again and he was certifiably crazy. He went and got it in Utah and blew up his 60 series in a 40 ft Angola trying to pull it home over the mountains empty. Somewhere in the archives there's his thread.

I think they r awsum but those kind of things r why they have CAT power. Lol. I'm only 33 ft and 21,000lbs and with the right ponys under the hood. Id be a prime candidate for it, would not be overweight or length neither! If it didn't look so much like a Prevo bus Id seriously consider it.

It's over the top. I know many 80,000 lb semis now have automatic transmission but I am not convinced that's a good formula, I wouldn't want an automatic with those weights.

In the picture look at the way the bus is turning to the right and the trlr wheels r going left.

Looks like it's being backed up and the trailer is not participating correctly.

[Elliott]

I know a guy in port orange fl with one. Never seen it pulled just sits in the hanger I believe it was a package deal when he bought his bus. Everything so far that's been said is pretty correct

IMHO their shortfall is their empty weight. Do u want to be approaching 80,000 CGVW with a full trailer?

Marathon coach was not affiliated with them but the manufacturer was Marathon trlr.

The one I saw the inside forward third was finished out looked like a continuation of the inside of the bus.

If pulled with a 54000 lb bus loaded with 2 cars plus gear I think u would exceed 80,000.

Remember Jeff Baily he was that screwball we had here for a while. He pulled one empty and said he'd never do it again and he was certifiably crazy. He went and got it in Utah and blew up his 60 series in a 40 ft Angola trying to pull it home over the mountains empty. Somewhere in the archives there's his thread.

I think they r awsum but those kind of things r why they have CAT power. Lol. I'm only 33 ft and 21,000lbs and with the right ponys under the hood. Id be a prime candidate for it, would not be overweight or length neither! If it didn't look so much like a Prevo bus Id seriously consider it.

It's over the top. I know many 80,000 lb semis now have automatic transmission but I am not convinced that's a good formula, I wouldn't want an automatic with those weights.

In the picture look at the way the bus is turning to the right and the trlr wheels r going left.

Looks like it's being backed up and the trailer is not participating correctly.

Joe, thanks for your post! So, if weight is the issue, I would think that could be overcome, isn't it like any other triple axle enclosed trailer? I wonder if there are other negatives, accounting for why other manufacturers passed on it's design.

[tnjet]

I saw one of these last time I was at Marathon in Grand Prarie, TX. It was wrapped in a blue/grey color to match a 2001 ish H3. The coach belonged to a country singer from the Hill Country of TX and being PDI's for a couple that live in Albuquerque. Not sure if they ever bought it. It needed a fairly extensive remodel, but I remember seeing the trailer. Front axle steerable, no tongue weight. I spoke to the Marathon shuttle driver who drove it and he said it pulled like a dream. Like it wasn't even there.

[Elliott]

I saw one of these last time I was at Marathon in Grand Prarie, TX. It was wrapped in a blue/grey color to match a 2001 ish H3. The coach belonged to a country singer from the Hill Country of TX and being PDI's for a couple that live in Albuquerque. Not sure if they ever bought it. It needed a fairly extensive remodel, but I remember seeing the trailer. Front axle steerable, no tongue weight. I spoke to the Marathon shuttle driver who drove it and he said it pulled like a dream. Like it wasn't even there.

Wow, that's awesome, thanks for posting!

[Joe Camper]

Try to verify its empty weight and the loaded capacity for us please that would be good I think.

I'm pretty sure it's also air ride not sure on brakes that would also be nice to verify for us. Is it airbrakes? Can't remember.

Baily was not a good test pilot.

I too love it but it's not for the average motorhome type.

Elliott what do u do road race with some vintage corvettes? Where around Arizona r the tracks?

[Elliott]

Try to verify its empty weight and the loaded capacity for us please that would be good I think.

I'm pretty sure it's also air ride not sure on brakes that would also be nice to verify for us. Is it airbrakes? Can't remember.

Baily was not a good test pilot.

I too love it but it's not for the average motorhome type.

Elliott what do u do road race with some vintage corvettes? Where around Arizona r the tracks?

I will post any information I get on this trailer design.

I currently pull a 2021 26' (31' with tongue) ATC stacker, 8K lbs empty and up to 20K lbs max loaded. I use a airtug super duty (up to 20K lbs) to move it around when parked or stored. I'm always very careful loading it, as to keep tongue weight 1500 -2000 lbs. I'm a car and motorcycle enthusiast and like to take rides wherever we go. I also like having a "garage" with me, keeps everything clean and dry and a place to work on stuff. The ATC pulls very well, the only time I feel it is going up grades.

I'm intrigued by this front steer design. Eliminating tongue weight, maybe better tracking, maybe easier to move around with a dolly?

[Gil_J]

Joe, although not a Marathon build, didn't that one in FL have Marathon Coach badging being pulled behind the Liberty?

[VASpartan]

This trailer was featured along with the coach by Premium, one had to call to get the price. They are now listing the coach separately and with a price, so they may have sold the trailer. I never called about the price for both so not sure what they wanted for the trailer.