I'm no computer newbie

And I have been on the boards since they were single user dial-in. However, I am a little confused. When I haven't been on for a day I want to click the "new posts" button and see something consistent. It seems to me that I can reload the page a short time after a visit and have the list of new posts be only three deep, where it was six deep an hour before.

Really what I want is to read things posted within a time frame so that I can get the big picture hear without wading through four year old posts. Maybe a way to just order the posts by date (think "active" forum on RV.net). Is there anything like that here?:confused:

The way I figure it, the site what I have opened on my last visit and won't display those the next time unless someone has posted after I read the post.
The only way to confirm for sure is to revew all of the Forum Categories for who posted last and at what time.

That's what I thought too, but that is a big waste of time. Something I found after this post is to do an advanced search. Select "posts" and your time period. It is a much smaller list to go through!

I don't know, Karl, the "New Post" link seems to work pretty consistently for me. It's basically how I read the board every day. Now you've got me wondering if I'm missing stuff!?! ACK! :eek:

Karl, since you want the easy way, look at the border at the page top and click, FORUM ACTIONS, under that click, MARK FORUMS READ.

This will give you a starting point from which you can read only the posts you feel necessary.
Just before you log off each session click MARK FORUMS READ again. In this way you will only see new posts since your last log in. The next time you log in and click, WHATS NEW you will only see posts newer than your last log out.

I do however recommend that you start a methodical read of all Threads and Posts from day one to get the best understanding of the PREVOST CONVERSION and all the people you are integrated with.

To say POG is disorganized is a gross understatement and much of what you want/need as a newcomer is buried in and amongst the web pages.

Good luck and enjoy.


JIM:)

Karl,

Follow what Jim said, then after clicking MARK FORUMS READ click again NEW POSTS and you will get message:

"Sorry, there are no new posts to view.

You may search for posts updated during the previous 24 hours, here"

I hope this is what you are looking for,

Alek

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Originally Posted by JIM CHALOUPKA

To say POG is disorganized is a gross understatement and much of what you want/need as a newcomer is buried in and amongst the web pages.

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DING! That's what I'm trying to figger out.

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Originally Posted by michaeldterry

I don't know, Karl, the "New Post" link seems to work pretty consistently for me. It's basically how I read the board every day. Now you've got me wondering if I'm missing stuff!?! ACK! :eek:

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I think you are fine. Jim's post below yours is probably the best way for me to get to where you are, i.e. having "read" everything.

Next question: How do I get it to jump to the last post I haven't read in a given thread? I can get to the last post, or even the last page, but those are not the same.

Kindly explain to me what is disorganized?

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Originally Posted by Sawbonz

Next question: How do I get it to jump to the last post I haven't read in a given thread? I can get to the last post, or even the last page, but those are not the same.

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After you click the "New Posts" link to bring up threads with posts since your last visit, look for a small circular icon with two liitle down arrows in it to the left of each thread. Clicking on that icon will take you to the first unread post in that thread.

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Kindly explain to me what is disorganized?

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Tom, I think what Jim is referring to is the difficulty in searching for technical information. Using the simple search tool will only give results on the specific words searched. In order to find useful information it is necessary to use the advanced search features of the search tool.

New members don't seem to be aware of the "Articles" and "Information Sharing" areas of the website. While these sections are invaluable to both wrench-heads and the technically oriented, I would suggest these sections could be consolidated and better organized, perhaps under the same headings as the forum categories or under titles coinciding with the Prevost Maintenance Manual. Authors of these articles might consider periodic updates to their contributions also. Jon has upgraded a couple of his contributions as an example. I would think an occasional request for article updates via PM's from the moderators would not be unreasonable.

All of us at POG are proud of our accomplishments and of the camaraderie we have due to our interest in these fantastic magic machines. The wealth of information we share is unique to POG in the world of recreational vehicles. As time goes on we gather more and more good information. It seems to me that a little reorganization of information along with a new member "Read before you Proceed" page would be helpful in reducing the number of repeat questions that occur as we grow.

Thanks Skiffer for bringing us all together and thanks Tom for jumping in to share the work. By the way when are you going to dump the plastic and get back in a real machine?

Over the years with this forum and others I have been on there is one thing constant. Newcomers to the forums will start asking questions, and a lot of the time those questions have been answered over and over.

Because of that participants in forums usually take sides, with one faction suggesting that newcomers do a search instead of asking for answers that have already been given.

The other faction thinks it is good to answer questions because no matter how often the same ones are asked there always seems to be nuances. It is true we often answer the same questions, and I fall in with the group that does not mind that they are frequently brought up, but I think it is intimidating to a new member to complain because they asked a question that could have been answered with a search.

I think newcomers would be well served if they explored the entire forum and the POG site. The information that has been gathered is extensive. But I also think that doing a search for information on a specific topic is sometimes a waste of effort because this group like every other I have been on cannot stay on topic for more than a few posts. There are nuggets of information contained in threads that have nothing to do with the topic of the thread. It's a wonder any of us can find anything.

Jeff Bailey (are you out there Jeff?) had a good idea that I thought would be an excellent way for newcomers to learn a whole lot real fast. He wanted to create a list of links or resources that could be referred to for information on every subject. I think if a few of the new members who want to learn would pick forum topics, read the threads and catalog all the information within those threads we could then all benefit from access to that catalog listing. The Newcomers would come up to speed on almost anything related to the bus in a big hurry.

I think Jeff was thinking links to service providers, suppliers, and general information, but I see no reason why it could not be expanded to include links to posts that contain good information.

Just my brain dump for now. And this makes post 8000.

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Originally Posted by Jon Wehrenberg

Over the years with this forum and others I have been on there is one thing constant. Newcomers to the forums will start asking questions, and a lot of the time those questions have been answered over and over.

Because of that participants in forums usually take sides, with one faction suggesting that newcomers do a search instead of asking for answers that have already been given.

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For the record, I looked for the answers to my initial question (about pricing and such, another thread) prior to posting, but only because of the second statement above. There is an interesting thread on rv.net about the stupid common posts, and the more stupid answers given to them. The vitriole on that site is one reason I am impressed with this one.

You surely know, because I do after being on here a short time, that there are a half-dozen topics that could be addressed by "stickies". Even so, some of those threads just give people the chance to post and talk, which is a good thing. Even if off-topic.

I do think it would be fantastic for someone (Jon) to organize the site though. Make it into a book for me to read, a wiki if you will. :)

What Karl said... :cool:

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Originally Posted by Sawbonz

For the record, I looked for the answers to my initial question (about pricing and such, another thread) prior to posting, but only because of the second statement above. There is an interesting thread on rv.net about the stupid common posts, and the more stupid answers given to them. The vitriole on that site is one reason I am impressed with this one.

You surely know, because I do after being on here a short time, that there are a half-dozen topics that could be addressed by "stickies". Even so, some of those threads just give people the chance to post and talk, which is a good thing. Even if off-topic.

I do think it would be fantastic for someone (Jon) to organize the site though. Make it into a book for me to read, a wiki if you will. :)

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Karl,

That just ain't gonna happen until someone teaches me what a wiki is, and even then I would likely not do it.

Is that something like tethering your droid?

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Originally Posted by Jon Wehrenberg

Karl,

That just ain't gonna happen until someone teaches me what a wiki is, and even then I would likely not do it.

Is that something like tethering your droid?

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From Wikipedia: A wiki is a website that allows the creation and editing of any number of interlinked web pages via a web browser using a simplified markup language or a WYSIWYG text editor. Wikis are typically powered by wiki software and are often used to create collaborative works. Examples include community websites, corporate intranets, knowledge management systems, and note services. The software can also be used for personal note taking.
Wikis serve different purposes. Some permit control over different functions (levels of access). For example editing rights may permit changing, adding or removing material. Others may permit access without enforcing access control. Other rules can be imposed for organizing content.
Ward Cunningham, the developer of the first wiki software, WikiWikiWeb, originally described it as "the simplest online database that could possibly work." "Wiki" (pronounced [ˈwiti] or [ˈviti]) is a Hawaiian word for "fast".

AND, I tether my iPhone, thank you! ;)

I nominate Sawbonz to pull together the links of pertinent poop for POG members. Do I hear a second?

I'll be happy to Second your motion, Jon.

Personally, I don't "wiki" anything.........

Brian (aka Mole Man)

I do have some stainless on the Krackmobile!:p

As for the forum comment by Jimmy C, we do our best to keep things in the correct category to ease the pain when searching and there is no magic solution to provide anyone with instant results for a given topic or question. I belong to 3 other forums and frankly, POG seems to be hands down easier to find information than the others. I'm all for making it easier and better organized, but to label the forum as grossly unorganized is a stretch.

We could change the New Members category with a statement for Newcomers to first read the Information Sharing and Articles section and that would answer many questions and possibly clear up some mystery regarding Prevost ownership.

We have lots of new members and maybe some of the lurkers could jump in and give us their opinion of the forum. I would hope that there are positive experiences with being new to the forum and I'm sure some find the format easy to navigate.

While this forum has a lot of collective knowledge available for anyone that takes the time to read and research it, I think the greatest number of us are here for the enjoyment. This is like one great big campfire discussion where anyone gets to insert their 2 cents.

I just hope the newcomers never feel they are on the outside looking in. I hope they can feel comfortable asking a question even though it may have been asked 100 times before. I hope the newcomers understand when we start insulting one another that we don't mean it, at least not all the time. I hope all newcomers can share with us who they are and lets us know a little about themselves. We have a lot of expertise collected here and it is nice to be able to tap into that expertise once in a while.

I agree with Tom in that maybe we could get some of the lurkers and newcomers to jump in and give us their opinion of POG and this site. My reasons are purely selfish. As POG grows and its members become more involved we have greater influence with suppliers and service providers. Our coaches are not inexpensive and caring for them takes effort and money. As a group we can work collectively to learn who is out there willing to help us with good quality work and supplies at fair prices. By hearing from everyone, including the newcomers we increase our collective knowledge.

There was a time when the Prevost Prouds and Prevost Car made sure we were well informed and properly taken care of, but Prevost has changed and the Prouds are not the force they once were. POG has the potential to fill the void but to be most effective we all have to participate, sharing good news, questions, experiences, etc. not just technical stuff, but information relating to campgrounds, places of interest, and better ways to enjoy our coaches.

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I nominate Sawbonz to pull together the links of pertinent poop for POG members. Do I hear a second?

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#CHOKE :eek:

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Originally Posted by Jon Wehrenberg

While this forum has a lot of collective knowledge available for anyone that takes the time to read and research it, I think the greatest number of us are here for the enjoyment......... not just technical stuff, but information relating to campgrounds, places of interest, and better ways to enjoy our coaches.

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Jon is exactly right on.

It is all about getting the most enjoyment from our coaches and enjoying this lifestyle to the fullest extent. And a major part of that is getting to meet and create friendships with some of the nicest, most diversely knowledgeable folks you'll ever meet.

That happens best by participation in this forum, attendance at POG rallys and sharing our questions and experiences.

I know that being a member of POG has certainly enhanced my bus ownership experience immensely.