Guns for protection

Jon,

your absolutely right... turn the Key and step on the Juice .. that would hopefully avoid a conflict..Take out the Infrastructure and whatever else might be in the way...

I would not want to have to shoot anyone either really, but then again I am not a objector either, if it is me or them ... Then Im sorry for your Luck as the Chinese say !

reverts back to the Military training thing I suppose... as that's the way what my uncle Sam taught me back then... modern warfare has now become Urban warfare and most all of it is not on a battle field anymore ... what most folks dont even realize is that more murders happened in this country killing lots of innocent folks more so than during the Iraq war to date of our Vet's and we see those numbers daily, multiply that by 3 or 4 times and that's whats happening on the home front.


What all you got in that Bus ? 46,000 Lbs is a lot of Stuff onboard Im thinking ? You must have one of Those Over Weight Challenged Elegant Ladies .... ha ha ha ha ha .. Just Kidding with you...

I am going to hit the scales with the machine before long as I have not done that yet since purchasing a few weeks ago now and I suspected she only weighed in about 28K or so.. have you ever used the "CAT" scales at the Truck stops ? I am told they are calibrated and do a good job ?

now as far as Climbing through Windshields, It's like smoking if you ask me and I have been trying to quit for sometime now...climbing through Windshields that is... that safety glass is pretty stuff to get through and the side windows ..well that's another story, these short legs are doing well to make the Entry Steps ...

I am thinking that the Bufford Pusser approach works good also, Walk soft but carry a Big Stick ! ;)

We have 46,000 pounds of escape mechanism. If someone is threatening me I will turn the key and drive away. I don't care if I have to push a car out of my path or rip out the sewer, water and electric lines. I will first drive away before I consider shooting someone.

That's one advantage of not having slides!:D

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Originally Posted by Jon Wehrenberg

We have 46,000 pounds of escape mechanism. If someone is threatening me I will turn the key and drive away. I don't care if I have to push a car out of my path or rip out the sewer, water and electric lines. I will first drive away before I consider shooting someone.

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Excellent point, Jon! This happens to be my primary choice of defense response as well! And if the perp just happens to be a slow mover when I start rolling - oh well, sucks to be him! :rolleyes:

I can't tell if on the few instances we have driven away if we were in physical danger or not, but there have been times when we felt uncomfortable with the people around us or the situation and we just started up and drove away.

Remember I prefer preventive maintenance and I apply the same thinking to my safety. I would far more prefer to move away when there was no need than to wait for something to reach a point when I have to start thinking about the use of a weapon. And my first weapon of choice is the bus.

FLY-N-LOW.......your bus weighs about 41,000 pounds and is 40 feet long. Mine is 45 feet long. Can you guess my bus weight? When you visit the CAT scale get a weight for each axle. You need that information so you can use the proper inflation pressures for the tires. 28,000 might be the weight of the empty shell. You will have close to that on the drive and tag axles.

I don't know if I got this link from POG a few months ago or if it came to my inbox from elsewhere but this is a must see whether you have a gun or not. Amazing no matter who you are. Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c

I stopped by a local gun store today to leave a couple of items on consignment - he has several 3" Taurus Judges in stock - these were chambered for 2 1/2". He says the 3" chamber is the one that's hard to find.... anyway the web site is: www.expertoutfitters.com phone is 330-965-9620

Hi Jon,

I agree with you on the Drive off from the scene approach, but inline with my previous comment about the Situation and situational awareness is the key to all of it I suppose.. can you get out of the situation by starting up the bus and do you have the time required to get it in gear and get gone...??

if you can thats great, if not .. Oh well

Thats the Fifty Dollar Question that hopefully none of us really want to know the answer to... and I hope it does'nt happen to anyone, but being Legally armed is the Best Advantage when weighing out the options.

Preventive maintenance is a beautiful thing in certain cases. as the old saying goes an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

I like the old Boy Scout moto also always be Prepared ! Expect the worst and hope for the best .. Dry Matches and Clean Socks .. ya-Hoo has taken me pretty far in life now.

In regards to bus weight if my bus being 40 feet long is basically a 1000 lb per foot then I would guess your bus to be between 45-46 k .. i think you had mentioned in your previous line it was 46K though...

Ok on the CAT scales, I will have each axle read for the weight so that I can ensure I am with the proper tire inflation pressures...

the previous owner stated that he had been running 100 P.S.I. in all the tires and it has all Brand new Rubber ( Firestones ) on the Drive and Tag Axles as well the Steers are at 95% Michelin's ...

Is there a Chart for Recommended Tire Inflation pressures to Weight Ratios on the POG here ? I will appreciate your additional comments.

Have you ever run Dry Air Nitrogen in your tires ?

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Is there a Chart for Recommended Tire Inflation pressures to Weight Ratios on the POG here

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Tom, this page has several links to tires, tire products, and proper inflation charts.

http://www.michelinrvtires.com/miche...e-material.jsp

Ray

Hi Ray,

Outstanding piece of Information and from the Best in the Business none the less. Hard to beat them Michelin's ..

Thank you very much for sharing this with me.. I have always been very particular about my tires on all the machines I have , after all that is what gets us there and without them you don't get far.

I have printed this document off and read it from start to finish now and it is worth its weight in gold, I will keep the Printed copy now in my Bus Bible as I call it for future references.

I look forward to getting the bus weighed soon and see how the numbers fair out and how the actual tire pressure to weight ratio works out.

Everyone should have a copy of this information handy.

Thanks Again Ray much appreciated ! ;)