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Jon,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Wehrenberg
Actually 14 inches for all of the stands would work for me. I just measured the XLVII and the rear stands would be fine at 14 inches.
The front body jacking points vary from 14 5/8 inches behind the front wheels to 16 ¼ inches in front of the front wheels and that’s allowing ¼ inch below the plates to allow slipping the stands in. I can always add a square of plywood shim(s) to make them work.
Tom, Rita had the wild idea to winter in Breckenridge so she could see snow. Two days after we left Columbia had 9 inches go figure. Spent a month with Ralph & Sandy Young at Tiger Run was right nice, a litle cold a couple mornings -22 was the worst but the old bus keep us nice and toasty. Swung down to the FMCA on the way home. Now leaving tomorrow for Apple Vally in Lake Lure for a week with the Royal club and a bunch of Poggers. Hope to run into yall real soon! Talk to ya
We can make the stands any height, but the sizes I showed seem to be generally acceptable. I am presuming the 14" for the rear is to support the bus at the vertical member and not under the square tubing. If that is the case I don't believe the stands will carry the weight in the center because the tubing cross member pushes the stand to the side.Quote:
Originally Posted by James
I was planning using the stands in the area next to the square tubing not under it. I've attached a picture of the area behind the tag wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Wehrenberg
That is what I am talking about. The flat bottom of the vertical member cannot be centered squarely on the top of the stand. I have played with protype versions of the stands and if possible would prefer to see the stands carry the weight centered on the top of them. I now use stands which support the coach beneath the square tubing.
Having said that, I supported my coach on the area adjacent to the biased cut tubing flange with no problems, and on XL coaches with an angle instead of tubing that is how they will need to be supported.
Is the square tubing of sufficient strength to support the weight of an XLV-II without being crushed or deformed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Wehrenberg
I have supported my coach that way with no problems and to the best of my knowledge that is how all XLII coaches have been supported.
On earlier coaches instead of the robust tubing there is an angle as a cross member. I would not try to carry the coach on that single leg of the angle and would have to support it directly under the vertical support. That is why there was a difference in height of the rear stands.
Please include us on the list for our H3. We have made our reservations at Buckhorn and plan to be there.
Thanks for all the effort.
Jon, am I correct in assuming the stands are proper height to support the bus when "fully" raised? Not just to ride height but Fully Raised.
You're on the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Spera
You are correct. They are intended to support the coach at its maximum raised height so you can safely get under it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarborBus
If you have not done so, when the coach is raised, a person can sit in the area where the wheels are and do any of the work necessary because there is plenty of height in there. There is little or nothing to work on between the axles under the bays.
Thanks Jon, I have to use my stupid questions sparingly I don't want to bump up against my annual limit.:rolleyes:
Hey Jon, Just realized we are neighbors. I'm in Sevierville and looking at outfitting my garage (45'x75') with the ability to lift my 2004 royale XLII-45. I want a set of four jack stands, can I come pick them up?
Gary,
They will not be produced prior to the Kerrville rally, but as soon as they are done I can bring a set home in case you aren't going to Kerrville where they will be distributed.
The stands will not lift your coach, but will support it at its maximum raised height which you can raise it to with the level low system.
Jon,
I'm looking at gettin a 25 ton floor jack for the lifting. Trying to find a good pair of strong jack stands is nearly impossible. Karen and I may get out to Keerville for the rally but If not please being a XLII set home with you. Let me know where and when to send money for them.
Gary,
I rarely lift my coach. I do support it. I do raise an axle off the ground to pull a tire. But in 20 years of ownership and about 15 doing my own maintenance and repairs I cannot remember a single instance of using a jack to lift the coach.
I have about eight 12 ton bottle jacks. I also have 4 air over hydraulic bottle jacks from Harbor Freight (about $69) or from Northern Tool ($79). I typically raise the bus and support it with stands. Prior to having stands I used the air over hydraulic jacks in lieu of stands, set them at the lowest position, and screwed out the center adjusting screw. That came almost to the support point height with the bus raised. If I was changing a tire for example I would then lower the bus onto the jack (it's all the way down so it cannot drop down due to a failure) then using the small bottle jacks raise the axle, with the air dumped from the suspension.
The advantage of the stands is they are more stable. I then free up all my bottle jacks to lift the axles as needed, if needed. The only reason to even jack up axles is to remove wheels, work on hub seals, brakes, wheel bearings, or to access certain components such as brake chambers, shocks, or air bags.
Bottle jacks apart from the air over hydraulic jacks are cheap if you wait for a sale. Every now and then 20 ton jacks are offered for $19.95.
As to paying for stands, I don't know their cost yet. The last run the cost was about $124 for a set of four. If nothing else we should get together and swap lies about buses.
Jon,
If it is not too late, I would like a set for an early XL.
You're on the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by akcabin
30 Sets
4 – H3
6 – XL
11 – XLV
5 - XLII
4 - XLVII
1 Chuck & Barb H3-40
1 Ken & Gwen Brewer H3
1 L J & Vi Verderber H3
1 Ron Walker H3
1 Darrell & Linda XL
1 Jim and Chris XL
1 John & Donna Ayres XL
1 Kelly & Rodney Brown XL
1 Mike Kerley XL
1 Tim & Mia Sparks XL
1 Adam DeGraff XLV
1 Andre & Ann Ducote XLV
1 Bill Bunch XLV
1 Gordon & Jennifer Deen XLV
1 Larry & Teddy Beer XLV
1 Michael & Dr. Vita Terry XLV
1 Mike & Jean Simmons XLV
1 Paul & Janice Horner XLV
1 Pete & EJ Petree XLV
1 Ron & Suzie Hampton XLV
1 Tony Conder XLV
1 Elliott & Evy McLeod XL-II
1 Eric & Debbie Faires XL-II
1 Gary & Peggy Stevens XL-II
1 Karen & Gary Swaim XL-II
1 Paul Branham XL-II
1 Alan & MK Hann XLV-II
1 James & Kris XLV-II
1 Loc XLV-II
1 Patrick & Sherry Fix XLV-II
Jon,
Is it too late to order a set of stands for our H3? We will be at Kerrville. Thanks for doing this for everyone. Looking forward to seeing you and Di in Texas.
Bonnie
I now have a reasonable idea of quantity (James please add Rob Russell....XLII) so I will get quotes. I'll post the prices ASAP.
Bob is now on the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Wehrenberg
I now have prices for bus stands.
The price is $193.00 delivered to Kerrville. I am unhappy to see the price compared to the last ones has risen so much but with cost of materials being so high I can understand it. They will be made the same as the last production run and will be provided with a durable powder coated finish.
For those that have indicated a desire to purchase a set please re-confirm. I do not want any money until I am ready to place the order. There is no profit in the pricing for Jamestown Advanced or me so please understand when I am ready to place the order I will need money in hand. The order will probably be placed near the end of August.
For those not attending Kerrville when you re-confirm please indicate you will not be going so we can see if there is an economical way to get them to you. If the past is any indication delivery of a set by UPS was almost the same as the cost of a set.
John,
I will take a set for a 1998 XLV
I will be at Kerrville
Thanks
I am still for a set Jon for my XLV - thanks for your assistance in this.
Please add me to the list. Although I am currently "busless", I spent this week looking at Liberty XLII's around South Florida. It is only a matter of time for me to pull the trigger. I am certain that the next one will be and XLII. I also will not be in Kerrville, but live in Knoxville, so I would be happy to pick them up at Jon's or wherever is convenient. Thanks to Jon and anyone else facilitating this purchase!
John Browder
Knoxville, TN
Jon,
Count me in for a set for our 2001 40' XLII
We will be in Kerrville
Thanks for your work on this Jon..........
Jon,
I am re-confirming my order for a set.
We will be in Kerrville.
Thanks for doing this for the members.
Ron
Jon,
Yes, I'd still like that set of stands for my H3. I will not make it to Kerrville. I'm hoping I can find one of the west coast guys who will carry them back as far as Arizona for me. I'll rendezvous somewhere along his route home and cause minimum delay.
Jon,
Thanks for taking this project on. I'm confirming my order for a set for our XLV. However, I will not be in Kerrville. Still deployed working claims for BP now stationed in Mobile, AL and it looks like I'll be here a while....
Confirmed. '97 XLV. Should be at Kerrville.
Confirm. Planning to be in Kerrville.
Here's the latest list.
33 Sets
5 – H3
6 – XL
11 – XLV
7 - XLII
4 - XLVII
1 Chuck & Barb H3-40
1 Donald Hall H3-45
1 Ken & Gwen Brewer H3
1 L J & Vi Verderber H3
1 Ron Walker H3
1 Darrell & Linda XL
1 Jim and Chris XL
1 John & Donna Ayres XL
1 Kelly & Rodney Brown XL
1 Mike Kerley XL
1 Tim & Mia Sparks XL
1 Adam DeGraff XLV
1 Andre & Ann Ducote XLV
1 Bill Bunch XLV
1 Gordon & Jennifer Deen XLV
1 Larry & Teddy Beer XLV
1 Michael & Dr. Vita Terry XLV
1 Mike & Jean Simmons XLV
1 Paul & Janice Horner XLV
1 Pete & EJ Petree XLV
1 Ron & Suzie Hampton XLV
1 Tony Conder XLV
1 Bob Russell XL-II
1 Elliott & Evy McLeod XL-II
1 Eric & Debbie Faires XL-II
1 Gary & Peggy Stevens XL-II
1 John Browder XL-II?
1 Karen & Gary Swaim XL-II
1 Paul Branham XL-II
1 Alan & MK Hann XLV-II
1 James & Kris XLV-II
1 Loc XLV-II
1 Patrick & Sherry Fix XLV-II
Prior to releasing the order for production I will compile a list with the individual buyer's information which will include the delivery point and the specific heights of the supports. I have had at least three request non standard heights and I want to be sure before cutting metal I have the correct information.
For those not receiving their supports in Kerrville, I also want to make sure arrangments for alternate deliveries have been made, such as giving them to a neighbor who is going to Kerrville, picking them up here in Knoxville, or some other arrangements.
At that time I will ask for checks.
Special thanks to James for keeping this information orderly.
Jon,
Reconfirming our desire to have a set for our 2002 XLV-II. We will be in Kerrville to pick them up. Appreciate your efforts in producing and delivering these for us.
Jon,
May I add a set for my '91 XL40 to the order list, for shipping to California?
Thanks!
Jay Becker
Confirmed, 2008 H3. Will be at Kerrville.
L J Verderber
Confirmed. Will need shipping to Anchorage AK. Can provide Fedex account info for direct billing of shipping.
Thanks,
Rodney
Confirmed. Will pick up at Kerrville.
Thanks.
Alan
hey Jon, stand confirmation for Kerrville for my 1990 XL40... I see james is keeping track...... Your efforts are greatly appreciated..... It deserves a wobbley pop in Texas
I would like a set. 1999 40' XL CC. Will be in Kerrville