Just remember you need the "out the door price" and that 533.00 Michelin will end up between 700 and 800 bucks.
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Just remember you need the "out the door price" and that 533.00 Michelin will end up between 700 and 800 bucks.
Sams Club can get Michelins for you for $700 each had to wait a week for them excluding tax.. We had Gateway tires install them.
This price looks like a no brainer to me for Michelin's.Quote:
Originally Posted by truk4u
Assuming that is the price of the tires, it is also the out the door price for me. I break down my tires and mount them so all I want is someone to stick them in the back of my pickup truck.Quote:
Originally Posted by truk4u
Oh man that pains me just to consider that. Besides I don't have a jack handle for my bottle jack.
I've been running the Toyo tires now for several years. They were on the bus when I bought it and I have just rotated replacements in as needed. I find them to be reasonably priced, smooth riding, and durable.
I will admit I would rather eat bees than horse 142 pound tires around. But the advantages of doing them myself outweigh the effort. First, I ain't getting any younger and it is so easy to justify sitting on my butt watching others work so I lie to myself and convince myself there are benefits doing this kind of work. First, it is an ideal opportunity to really get a close look at stuff not usual visible with the wheels and tires in place. The bus is supported on stands and I can pull all the wheels and go ever everything slowly. I need the time to sit on my butt so this is as good an excuse as any. I look for hub seal leaks, cracked discs or drums, check hoses, and maybe even take on some other work as long as the wheels are off. I am due for drive axle shocks so that may be on the agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ledo
After I break down the tires and wheels there is no better time to give the wheel a good going over with my buffer. This is especially true of the drive wheels whcih are a pain to buff and polish when the hub is sticking through them on the bus.
When I mount the tires I get a chance to mount them so the date code is actually visible. Little stuff like that makes me happy. Finaly when I mount the wheels back on the bus I am pretty sure I will be more concerned about the torque than the tire guys who normally crank up the PSI and drive the nuts home with the 1" impact wrench. Finishing the job provides me with an excuse to treat myself to an adult beverage.
I talked with a Michelin rep at the Madison FMCA rally. He told me the program works like this. Order the tires from the FMCA web page. The tires will be shipped to the Michelin dealer you choose. The tires will be billed by Michelin to your credit card. You have to pay the dealer for mounting etc. On the price list the rep showed me 315's were about $570. Did not look to close as have about 24 months till it's tire time. Hope my info is correct as it has been almost 2 months ago.
I discovered by accident that if I joined the FCMA they have a volume dicount with Michelin, so I used it buying 8 new XZA2-Energy tires and paid $553 + $52.83 FET for each. (discount only applies to the tires, not the mount/ballance). Saved a grand. These are the tires Prevost recommends on their new busses.
I still stand by my purchase of all 8 Double Coin tires for my bus. They have worked flawlessly and have never given me a problem.
I really like the fact they are rated for 10,000 lbs each tire, and now that I know they are owned by Michellin I FEEL EVEN BETTER about my purchase.
If your bus has a heavy front end like mine did ( and Loc it wasn't just cause I was sitting up front ) then you might consider these tires, instead of having to spend $4k to upgrade to 365 fronts? Just saying.
Gary S.
I am seeking some first hand expereince with the FMCA Michelin Advantage program mentioned a few times in this thread.
Here is the link to the instructions:
http://www.fmca.com/join-family-moto...nnections/3448
The sentence that is being a problem for me is:
Because of a contract between FMCA and Michelin North America, the dealer is unable to give you an invoice with an accurate price.
I visited my local Michelin dealer and was told they are not capable of providing a price since Michelin will not tell them. All they can do is give me an estimate of the cost if selling directly to me and promise that whatever Michelin charges will be less, but just how much less they do not know.
I am not very happy being expected to make the purchase and later be sent an invoice. Now it's their program and I understand they can make the rules and do it as they wish. What I am hoping is someone may actually have the correct price I will be charged for the tires from Michelin. Everything besides Net Invoice and FET will be set by the local dealer - Mount and Balance, valve stems, and disposal fee.
The FMCA site does offer a link to common tire size prices under the program, with the note they may change.
http://www.fmca.com/images/stories/p...lin-prices.pdf
In that document my front tire size is listed:
315/80R22.5 XZA2 c/n 76184 at Net Invoice $586.18 FET $52.83 Tot. $639.01
local dealer quoted that tire at a total of $849.35
That is a pretty healthy reduction. Dealer said they expect the reduction would be like fifty bucks per tire from FMCA.
My six rears are 11R24.5 XZE2 c/n 88507 Dealer quote $516.79
Anyone have a Michelin/FMCA price on that one?
I sure could save a lot if Jon wanted eat more bees and put them on for me:o
Easy answer. Just call the FMCA office and they will give you the accurate price. I just did that. The dealers really don't know the answer, mine didn't even know about the program but was happy to learn. Also, I discovered one very loose lug-nut after just a few miles and several that needed to be re-torqued, so take the "have them re-checked after X miles" deal seriously.
Russ, Ain't no way I am mounting your tires. Not a fun job.
But when I do dismount and mount my tires I at least put the date codes out, inflate them per the Michelin chart and torque the lug nuts properly. But Liam is right about retorquing them. Over the years I have had two with loose nuts. The nuts did not come off, but they weren't tight either. (21 years times 80 lug nuts times ???? many tire changes means the risk of loose nuts is low, but it is still worth retorquing.)
Thanks Liam and Jon,
FMCA did get back to me and the answer is puzzling. On the front tires the Advantage program was significantly less, and on the rears it was more. So I guess I would use the Advantage program just for the fronts.
Here are the results:
315/80R22.5 XZA2 c/n 76184 FMCA 586+53=639 Local Dealer 849
11R24.5 XZE2 c/n 88507 FMCA 541+34=576 Local Dealer 517
( numbers rounded)
Does not include mounting, balancing, stems, and disposal.
Thanks,
Russ
I replied to this thread once before but I do not understand the confusion. I called Beasley Tires here in Houston. They agreed that the FMCA has a program very beneficial to the membership of FMCA. I asked for a turn key installed walk out price and received a guaranteed price of $705 for all eight tires...there was no conversation of invoices, questions of invoices, etc. Their dealer cost on the tire is normally $685 without the program before fed, state, installation and balancing.... They stated ths is a very good deal. I believe anyone who is giving a prevost owner the run around is doing so to protect their margins. Michelin provides the tires to the dealer at a lower price ... my thoughts.
Pres
BTW the XZA2-Energy in my 22.5 size just came off factory backlog so I got DOT dates of mid-Sep (days old) as opposed to tires sitting at the dealer for a year. Some debate - but many feel the aging process starts at birth and not mounting so I was thrilled to get "still warm" tires!
hi i need 4 drive 315/70/22.5 also 2 sterr tires 365/80/22.5 . terry cel 5194654101 will be in atlanta mid nov
any dealer on hwy75 from detroit to miani.. will be heading south in 3 weeks
I agree with Jon, there are a lot of loose nuts in this group! The other thing I remember from a Michelin Seminar, to change the subject a little, the tires are organic in the sense that the more they are used, the healthier they remain. The motion and flexing creates a chemical reaction which keeps the tire from hardening. so, don't rely just on date stamps to determine the health of your tire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Wehrenberg
Terry,
Here's a link to Action Tire in south Atlanta, ask for Rick the owner and mention POG and my name: http://www.actiontireco.com/Scripts/default.asp
yer i need 6 tiresQuote:
Originally Posted by truk4u