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Joe Camper
03-01-2017, 07:53 AM
Here is a gadget for the guru.

This takes the pull out of the wheel in a strong crosswind or on a road with a big crown. It's steering trim.
IMHO very cool and probably 1 in 50 buses have it, maybe less.

I'm reinstalling a cylinder that had been removed by another so a leak could be repaired.

I have an owners opporator manual but not a service manual. I've done a search to find a service or repair manual with no luck.

I'm concerned with initially getting all the air out and without specific instructions I can only apply the procedures that apply to most other hydraulic systems in terms of getting out air.

This may or may not be an issue and the air may even blead itself out by turning the wheel stop to stop. Maybe not. If I had to guess I'd say there is a pretty specific procedure.

Has anyone removed and replaced the stabilizer cylinder that can help answer or can someone lead me to a service manual.

Thanks in advance

Pete
03-01-2017, 08:58 AM
Joe, my coach has Howard Steering. It is an awesome system. Howard Steering went out of business when its inventor passed away. The heirs of Howard have the steering system embedded with other inventions, and will not sell the system separately. I spent hours doing research, even talking to the estate's attorney.
I spent a sizeable amount of money trying to have the cylinder repaired to no avail. I talked with a couple of charter bus companies who also gave the system high marks, but have removed the system from their bus fleet because of a lack of service.

I would love to find someone capable of repairing the cylinder, to get mine back in service. Maybe we can talk later in the day so I can tell you what I have found about the system.

Joe Camper
03-01-2017, 10:19 AM
Hey Pete good mornin.

I can give u a shop that rebuilt this Howard cylinder tomorrow when I get back to work with it.

I have located a service manual unfortunately a quick look through didnt supply the info I was looking for in terms of filling the system for the first time. I'll read it in its entirety later today maybe it's in there hiding.

Pete
03-01-2017, 02:53 PM
Great! As I mentioned, I had mine rebuilt (supposedly) and it did not work....for some reason, it pumps the fluid into a canister mounted on the wall of the compartment under the drivers seat. Sure hope you have found a solution to the problem, as I would really like to have mine put back in operation.

TheGadgetGuru
03-01-2017, 07:43 PM
It's my understanding this feature is been exclusive to Newell and Newmar for many years, but it's now available on other coach brands, such as Foretravel. While the names are a bit different, Newmar calls it Comfort Steer.

I did drive a Newell with this feature through 20 mph cross winds and the steering wheel automatically corrected. It was a bit unusual at first, but it's easy to see the benefits. Newmar owners rave about this feature.

Joe Camper
03-02-2017, 07:50 PM
I think it's the bomb. Pete that is what was happening on this one too. The overflow resurvaur overflows. Hope he has better results with his rebuilder than u did. I'll let u know. Still a couple days before we get the bus back on all 4s.

Doesn't suprise me the accessory gets rave reviews

Pete
03-02-2017, 09:02 PM
Great! Can't wait to hear the results.

Pete
03-08-2017, 09:24 AM
Joe, any word on the Howard cylinder rebuild? Was it successful?

Joe Camper
03-08-2017, 03:57 PM
In a word. No. It leaked in places it didn't before he removed it.

Im going back there after I get back to Chicago. He's not ready to give up on it.

Left home yesterday 4pm. I'm sitting in a rest area on I-75 at the FL line and my trip odometer is at 950. I love my camper.

Pete
03-08-2017, 04:17 PM
Great, I want to see your camper when you finish it. And please keep us up on the Howard steering job. Take care.

Joe Camper
03-08-2017, 07:39 PM
14250

14251

St. Aubin
07-04-2017, 08:14 PM
I have had a Howard steering cylinder rebuilt and installed. After installation and energizing the system I have fluid leaking out of the valve attached to the base of the pump reservoir. Is it possible that there is a bladder inside the reservoir that went bad? Bad valve? Any suggestions?
Thank you.

Pete
07-04-2017, 10:03 PM
I wish I knew. I really like this system, and would love to find some one who could fix it. If you should some one, please post it.