light wood vs. dark wood

[Sting]

Now that the sale of my 2006 Country Coach Affinity is finished, it is now time to concentrate on my new toy. As most know I am leaning toward Millennium and Country Coach. I know I want the wood look and with the wood laminates out there which do most prefer? I have usually been a dark wood guy but have to admit that the light wood laminates that Millennium uses is nice. I know its my coach but I always try to design and decorate in the event of a resale and I know wood choice is something to consider. Curious what the POG likes?

[Jerry Winchester]

I think you answered it in your two statements.

MangoMike says, "Hey big Jer, why didn't you paint your airplane orange?"

I said, "Well eunuch boy, you have to sell that thing sometime..."

I say potato you say potato; I like dark(er) wood and Mike likes that sissy light colored laminate because it shows off the LEDs better. But someone profound at POG1 (so it wasn't Jon, Jeff, Lew, Roger or Tom) said they decorated their coach entirely different than their home just for a change. Made sense, but I can't go that Liberty casino chic. We bought the Royale because liked the solid wood and it is fairly dark. Kinda dark. Well just medium dark. Maybe.

[garyde]

Having had many different Coaches with Oak or Maple.... I kind of like the change to the solid colors. Its nice when they have wood accents also instead of all wood.

[matsprt]

Todd,

Just remember that "real" wood will darken with age. I lean toward a medium color real wood. But that fake stuff kind of grows on you.:D

Michael

[MangoMike]

StingaLing,

LIghter woods if you please. Because I plan on buying that Millennium when you order your 2011.


Mike

[Sting]

Hey Mango...Thats implying that I would keep it 5 years. I havent kept a coach longer than 14 months so far. By the way you think that lil Kelly girl will like my Millennium?:D Her tour is free!

[truk4u]

Sting,
I had a Foretravel with dark wood (walnut) and it was beautiful, but when it was time to sell, most of the woman didn't like it cause it was too dark inside.
Just a little tidbit to think about.;)

[rmboies]

Sting, (love your tag name:D )

Having had Prevost's with both light and dark interior, I must say I prefer light or medium. My initial attraction when viewing pictures of coaches for sale was for the dark wood. Our H3 had dark mahogany wood laminate. It was a very European interior with crystal chandeliers, gilded gold framed original oil paintings, etc. Talk about bling! However, it was dark and it gave you the feeling of being in a smaller space. The fabric was champagne in color so it did have light contrasts though not enough to "open" up the coach. If it would have had slides like our present coach, I may have felt differently about it.

I would advise walking through coaches with both dark and light wood before making a decision. If you have the opportunity, walk through after dark;) Real wood cabinets should not darken with age if stained and sealed appropriately although oak can turn more yellow for some reason. I am looking forward to seeing your choices, I love choosing fabrics, etc.

Hmmmmmmm, I wonder if I could get Bob-00 to order a new coach so that I can choose the interiors? Ok, right, I hear Mango, Jon and Jeff saying, NO WAY!!

Debi and Bob-00

[Jerry Winchester]

Debi,

What if I load the girl's go-cart into the front bay of the coach and you tell Bob that we are having a "Cart Rally" in some town near Santa Fe. You trick him into going, we make him drive the cart over to Sante Fe Skies, and poof, you are at the POG, we tell Bob to get a life and you can lead the seminar about choosing the right interior.

Works for me..........

[rmboies]

Debi,
Fe. You trick him into going, we make him drive the cart over to Sante Fe Skies, and poof, you are at the POG, we tell Bob to get a life and you can lead the seminar about choosing the right interior.
Works for me..........

Jerry, honestly, you have met Bob, do you really think we can trick him?? :eek: Your plan works for me but somehow I don't see Bob buying it:rolleyes: It is not the go-karts he loves, it is owning and running a business--then again, you might be able to tempt him with two or three 20 year olds hidden in the basement of your coach;) I like the idea of having an interior design seminar though, can you fly me in for that? <just kidding>

Debi and Bob-00

[MangoMike]

Debi,

Just tell BOB-00 there's a ground floor business opportunity in Sante Fe. As a true entrepeneur he can't pass up a ground floor deal.

However the babe in the bay thing might work - but it will be Fast Rogers' Bay.

Babe in the Bay - hmmm sounds like the makings a of great t-shirt.

MM

[Jerry Winchester]

We're already picking up one hot chick at the airport, why not two? I have a couple of business opportunities I can get bound up for Bob so he will have something to pour over while the rest of us are having fun.

[rmboies]

Debi,
However the babe in the bay thing might work - but it will be Fast Rogers' Bay.
Babe in the Bay - hmmm sounds like the makings a of great t-shirt.
MM

Bob wants to know Fast Roger's itinerary :D Mango, I think you could market those t-shirts at POGII and Jerry, I appreciate the pick up offer:o

Debi and Bob-00

[Jerry Winchester]

Debi,

It's easy to figure. They need to be at Santa Fe by noon on Wednesday and they only travel 6 hours per day, so figure 62.5 mph X 6 hours - a pee break for Jon every 45 minutes work backward from Santa Fe and you will know where they will stop and when they started. Figure Roger will drive 75 from his home to Knoxville and you are done.

Do we need to get the girls on here to whine you into coming?

[MangoMike]

Debi,

Nice avatar. And much better looking than BOB-00.

MM

[rfoster]

DEB: Tell Bob-00 to kick back and take a few days to join in on the harrassment of his fellow man. I know he wants to make a few bucks, but so do I and Mango, and JDUB and probably a few others. But the bus is good- no great therapy for the working man (and woman in Micki's case). Instead of the proverbial &quot;gone fishin&quot; sign, just post &quot;gone blinging&quot; on the door and no one in these here mountains will know what and where you are. Reference previous post about bling - fortunately that definition hasn't flowed up hill to us.
We plan to leave fairly early am (sevenish) Sunday and follow Jon thru Knoxville, to somewhere in eastern ARK Sunday night, (about 600 miles for us) at 62.5mph Mon we will do another 500 or so on for Tue, we should arrive SF by mid week. I will follow Jon as I don't want my bling to damage his vision.

It's a good thing we are not going thru Houston as we may slide off the road due to a great deal of residue being spread & left around there.

Micki said to get your stuff packed and go!!

[rmboies]

Debi,
Nice avatar. And much better looking than BOB-00.
MM

I will tell him you said so double M :D

Roger, please tell Micki I will see her at the next one (hey, maybe we could get together for a fall weekend some where since ya'll don't live that far away?).....

Jerry, whining absolutely will not work even from the beautiful women on this list--he is still holding out for the three 20 yr.olds--LOL

Debi and Handsome Bob-00

[Sting]

Sorry it all went over your head Jim. Thanks for your advice, I guess thats what it was. I was engaging in what I thought was a harmless topic about woods. Dont know why I needed that scolding from ya? By the way my Dad says I can do what I want, but I will be sure to pass things by you next time. Oh, thats a neat lil saying you have there...&quot; Wanting something is better than having it.&quot; My saying kinda goes something like this &quot;Owning something is better than Wanting something.&quot; Since you really didnt answer anything to do with the topic and your post are full of questions for me I figure I will go ahead and answer yours. Lets see you asked..Do you really want the Bus or do you like the social aspects and process of the acquisition!? I really want the Bus and I am going to GET the Bus and yes I like the social aspects and the process of acquisition. The next thing you said...&quot;When you told us that you were not keeping any bus very long you were making a statement that money was not important to you. Colors for resale ??? Go figure!&quot;... You gonna have to show me where I said I am not keeping a bus very long. If you are referring to the post in this thread that I responded to Mango Mike, then I would encourage you to read the context and note that smiley faces dont mean statements are serious. As far as colors for resale, I thought that we reasonable minded folks here could discuss that regardless if money is not important to me. By saying money is not important to me you are attributing motive. For what reason? Why! When you say &quot;The way you are going through buses you are proving my point&quot;...Just how many buses have I gone thru? I will tell you. NONE. I have yet to buy a bus. I have had a 2005 Allegro Bus, a 2006 Country Coach Affinity and thats it. NO BUS yet, but I hope to be like you and own one soon. You have to tell me though WHY this tone on a &quot;light wood vs dark wood thread&quot;? I come in peace and mean you no harm. I promise not to take the same tone you took on me on your threads.

[MangoMike]

Todd,

Man, I'm glad your questions wasn't a Liberty vs Marathon vs Millennium debate - that could've been ugly.

and yes... I'm still pulling for the lighter woods :)


MM

[Jerry Winchester]

yes... I'm still pulling for the lighter woods - Cus you're a wus.

And I'm not calling your cell phone again until you learn to keep it in your pocket. It's not my fault I figure you are pulling a fast one on me and the joke ends up on you :eek:

[garyde]

Sorry it all went over your head Jim. Thanks for your advice, I guess thats what it was. I was engaging in what I thought was a harmless topic about woods. Dont know why I needed that scolding from ya? By the way my Dad says I can do what I want, but I will be sure to pass things by you next time. Oh, thats a neat lil saying you have there...&quot; Wanting something is better than having it.&quot; My saying kinda goes something like this &quot;Owning something is better than Wanting something.&quot; Since you really didnt answer anything to do with the topic and your post are full of questions for me I figure I will go ahead and answer yours. Lets see you asked..Do you really want the Bus or do you like the social aspects and process of the acquisition!? I really want the Bus and I am going to GET the Bus and yes I like the social aspects and the process of acquisition. The next thing you said...&quot;When you told us that you were not keeping any bus very long you were making a statement that money was not important to you. Colors for resale ??? Go figure!&quot;... You gonna have to show me where I said I am not keeping a bus very long. If you are referring to the post in this thread that I responded to Mango Mike, then I would encourage you to read the context and note that smiley faces dont mean statements are serious. As far as colors for resale, I thought that we reasonable minded folks here could discuss that regardless if money is not important to me. By saying money is not important to me you are attributing motive. For what reason? Why! When you say &quot;The way you are going through buses you are proving my point&quot;...Just how many buses have I gone thru? I will tell you. NONE. I have yet to buy a bus. I have had a 2005 Allegro Bus, a 2006 Country Coach Affinity and thats it. NO BUS yet, but I hope to be like you and own one soon. You have to tell me though WHY this tone on a &quot;light wood vs dark wood thread&quot;? I come in peace and mean you no harm. I promise not to take the same tone you took on me on your threads.

Hi Sting. I saw a 2004 Country Coach on the Featherlite Web site, and a Royale. They both looked interesting. Also, Phil Coopers Web site had a 2006 Royale if your interested. Good Luck. Gary

[lewpopp]

Sting

I guess we all didn't mean to be sarcastic, at least as sarcastic as you said we were. You did come across as someone who changes coaches about as often as Mango changes underwear.

Before you get on line, how long does it take you to paint your face for the performance and heavy metal? :D :D Does that mean I'm not serious? No, I'm serious and laughing. :p :p

[Sting]

Sting

I guess we all didn't mean to be sarcastic, at least as sarcastic as you said we were. You did come across as someone who changes coaches about as often as Mango changes underwear.

Before you get on line, how long does it take you to paint your face for the performance and heavy metal? :D :D Does that mean I'm not serious? No, I'm serious and laughing.

Lewpopp my brother I dont want to get into a war of words as again it was what I thought was a harmless thread about wood. But I have to let you know that when you say &quot;sarcastic as you said WE were&quot;, I dont get it? I NEVER said anything about the POG group as a whole. Just one gentleman seems to have made this something personal for himself and I responded as tactfully as I could which is something I tryed to convey that he could adhere too in the future. But I don't see where I attributed everyone or the &quot;WE&quot; in your post as being sarcastic. I thought it was obvious that the tone of the gentleman's response was somewhat harsh about a small topic about woods. I have tried again to be tactful, as I havent seen this type of harshness in posts since I have joined the forum. I did not attribute envy or other negative qualities to the gentleman, but he certainly feels justified in his post about his attributes to me, which again any normal, reasonable person or POG bretheren can see had nothing to do with the topic at hand. I dont understand the gentleman's motives, perhaps I am the only one, I dont know? But when he says &quot;I gave my opinion&quot;...Opinion about what? Not wood? I saw an opinion about myself, not the topic. He further said a couple of posts up from this one...&quot;He agrees to disagree&quot;. Again about what? What are we disagreeing about? The topic is about wood. What did he disagree about? I will continue to be a gentleman and again I have no problems with anyone. Not even Jim. I am just lost as to WHY the attack? Again the topic was about woods. As far as the paint goes it has nothing to do with heavy metal. Does not take that long to put on as the ladies know what they are doing.;)

[Denny]

Sting

My slant on the Light Wood vs Dark Wood. My wife and I love dark wood and when we bought our house and remodeled it, I gutted it taking out all of the woodwork, doors, etc. We replaced it all with oak stained Danish walnut. We even went so far as to replace the floors with walnut wood. Again, we love dark wood.

All of our previous coaches had dark wood also. Until our Prevost.

I saw it on Parliaments website and it was light, light, light but it immediately captured my attention. It was about a month of convincing before my wife would even look at the photos because it was not dark wood. We went to Florida to look at it and after 5 minutes of sitting in it we felt like we were home. We did a 180 on the dark wood we love so much.

In the coach the light finish makes it seem so much brighter, cheerful and larger. It is a non slide coach. After having the coach for 3 months, we are still very satisfied with our choice in finish. Our home has the dark and the coach has light. We feel we have the best of both worlds.

As for resale, future value and what other people think, I don't care. It is what we like and what we are happy with. I am sure that someone in the future will like it just as much as we do.

Denny

[lewpopp]

I guess I stick my nose into places that I shouldn't. I guess I am bored and want to give my ideas.

Years ago, most all coaches had dark or darker wood in them. As years progressed the lighter laminates took over and they were beginning to please more and more people. I would venture a guess that there are more lighter interior coaches out there that darker ones.

I feel I am entering a cave when I get into a darker wood coach.

I purchased a Gulfstream Tour Master and it was my first taste of a light interior. I believe they were the first builder to use the white laminate throughout. We fell in love with it. It was very cheerful and we really enjoyed the coach because of the new found lightness.

[Ben]

I would encourage you to not go any darker than cherry. I've seen many coaches with wood much darker and have noticed that they seem to stay on the market a bit longer... but those are older coaches and it might be a different story with the new ones.

I have a light wood look coach. Cherry is my favorite, but it only took about a week for me to get completely used to the lighter color and to like it possibly more than cherry... it just looks brighter and more open with the lighter wood.

That's my 2 cents worth.

[Sting]

I feel the same way you feel Denny and I agree with your assessment Ben. I have always been a dark wood fan but the light wood I see offered on a Millennium Coach sure looks nice and its light. I may have to convert to the light side. I will see as I am flying there next week.

[Jon Wehrenberg]

Todd,

I love the look of wood. The darker the better. It makes the coach look like an elegant vintage yacht or the inside of an exclusive club.

But despite that preference, there are two strong arguments in favor of not only light wood, but even laminates.

The first has been stated. Dark colors seem to shrink the coach. It feels smaller and even cramped.

The second argument in favor of light laminates is not only does it open up the coach and make it feel less confining, but with a spray bottle of Glass Plus and a rag you can wipe down an entire coach in minutes. I don't even want to think about the effort required with furniture polish to maintain a fine dark wood interior.

[ken&ellen]

Our Liberty has gone beyond light....we have white laminate and as Jon states it is very easy to clean. Additionally, in our non-slide coach the white interior seems larger. Ken

[rfoster]

Sting: The consensus -well It appears almost unamimous in favor of light vs dark.,,I used to be the guy who loved dark wood, and then I got older and the light began to fade and dim the eyes, - the lighter the interior, the brighter, the easier it is for an old fart to see. so as you get a little older in age - you might need to see what you are doing rather then feeling your way.
Of course Winchester with all his skills probably doesn't need light- Just the LED type. or his flame thrower. or cold hands!

I even had my offices redone into a super light wall with white wainsright and lots of lights and windows. Now I have to wear sunglasses!:cool:

[Jerry Winchester]

I'm telling you this is all a smoke screen to cover up for having to wear sun glasses in the office because of that Viagra / light sensitivity thing. Our former chairman had a dark block paneled office and he kept the shades pulled and the lights out with lamps lighting the office. When I asked his assistant about it, she said it was from the Viagra. Wonder how she knew?

So Roger's talk for POG II is &quot;Let There Be Light....And Wood&quot; in your coach. :eek:

[rfoster]

Hey JDUB: Don't be blaming your knowledge of Viagra and its side effects on the old folks. Sounds to me like you know more than the rest of us. Let there be LIGHT!

[MangoMike]

I'm thinking the bright light in Rogers office aids in blinding his customers from reading that &quot;fine&quot; print in the purchase contract.