Coach Weights

[jimshoen]

I have seen a few posts where members list the weight of their coach. I am curious to find out what other coaches weigh and why. Also, the actual weight per axle and max weight allowed. Useful load. Here's mine.

Marathon #472, 1997 XLV, IFS, S-60

Actual Weight Max Rated Weight Difference
Steer Axle 14340 16500 2160
Drive Axle 19500 20400 900
Tag Axle 11760 12000 240

Totals 45,600 48,900 3,300

Condition: Full fuel, fresh water full, black and gray empty, two persons on board, Tool box/spares, extra tools, ladder, bus stands, jacks etc. No food or luggage.

[garyde]

Here is mine:http://forum.prevostownersgroup.com/showthread.php?p=34910#post34910

It was determined after we weighed our Coaches that the Parking sites were not level, therefore the fronts weighed heavier than normal. My front weights measured last year were qbout 400 lbs lighter.

[BUSTER]

Jean and I are looking at a 2000 H single slide to replace Buster.

The front axle weight is18,940 vs. a rated 16,500

All max is 53,180 vs. 52,060.

Fact or Fiction: This is a big problem

Fact or Fiction: If I ever have an accident, my insurance is void

Fact or Fiction: I could get a ticket for being overweight.

What advice can my fellow Poggers give us.

Thanks:)

[Joe Cannarozzi]

Is the gen in the first bay. Is it a slide coach?

That steer weight seems incorrect. Could it be?

If that is correct who is the converter they should be waterboarded.

[Jon Wehrenberg]

I don't know if your insurance is void, or if you will get a ticket, but I do know I would love to be the lawyer representing the guy driving the car you just rear-ended.

I would love to hear you try to explain why your overloaded mega-buck coach did not have its stopping distance compromised. You will not be able to get the converter or Prevost to help you because both of them will want to be far removed from your legal problems.

Then at the end of the day the guy you hit would be driving your bus.

Will that ever happen? I doubt it. But if you did rear end the jerk that just cut in too close and then spiked his brakes (which happens far too often) you run the risk that some lawyer knows enough about big motorhomes to get your weight data to add to his contention you were tailgating. Once he has that it seems to me it is a slam dunk.

[Gary & Peggy Stevens]

My American XLII with single slide when we picked it up, without any of our now current junk, weighed in at:

50,320lbs Front Axle 15,360 Rear 34,960
Full Fuel, Water, No holding tank weight. Have not been able to get an accurate individual wheel weight, cause we didn't make it to Spearfish.

Maybe we can get the actual weights done again in Oklahoma 09, or where ever the next big POG event is.

Gary S.

[jimshoen]

Buster,
Go find another coach if those weights are correct. I agree with Jon. Not worth the aggrivation and worry. Plenty to choose from and a buyers' market to boot.
Jon, What's your liberty weigh?

[garyde]

Jean and I are looking at a 2000 H single slide to replace Buster.

The front axle weight is18,940 vs. a rated 16,500

All max is 53,180 vs. 52,060.

Fact or Fiction: This is a big problem

Fact or Fiction: If I ever have an accident, my insurance is void

Fact or Fiction: I could get a ticket for being overweight.

What advice can my fellow Poggers give us.

Thanks:)

Hi Mike and Jean. I miss seeing you guys. I would have the Coach weighed again. somethings not right. Did you have it weighed or did you see a document when it was weighed. Were the two front bays empty? Was the leveling on the Coach at normal drive height. Were the tags up or down.
Was anyone sitting in the front area. Was the Coach on Level ground.
There are a lot of things which will effect the scales .
Does the front have 315's or 365's.
I would check out the front bearings, brakes , discs, etc. if those weights are correct for the front. I have heard the Featherlite coaches can be overweight but not by 2500 lbs.

[Jon Wehrenberg]

Jim,

Total weight about 46,600, all the axle weights are in the bus, but if it is important I can get the data.

[jack14r]

My weights for my 05 Liberty XLII were
Front 17360 18000
Drive 21140 22500
Tag 13380 14000
Total 51880 54500


My weights for my 08 Liberty are
Front 18040 18000
Drive 22100 22500
Tag 13660 14000
Total 53800 54500

Both were weighed with full fuel and water and with the waste tank empty.The 08 has 2 additional 8D batteries and a different awning package,I actually thought it would be 500 to 1000 pounds lighter.Prevost also changed the structure in the bays to support the new generation slides,I am sure that added some to the total weight.

[Gary & Peggy Stevens]

Gee Jack, the weight on your new bus, doesn't leave much room for groceries or beverages. :)

But I am sure you have got that all figured out by now?


Gary S.

[jack14r]

I failed to mention that it was fully stocked when I weighed it.

[Sid Tuls]

Here are the Weights for my 07 Thompson

Front 16,980 Rated 18,000
Drive 20,860 Rated 22,500
Tag 12,960 Rated 14,000

Total 50,800 Rated 54,500

Weighed full of fuel and 70 gal Fresh water and 0 gal on grey 0 gal. on black
I would like to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving and safe travels on the road!

Sid & Judy

[Yankee802]

Steer:13300
Drive:17800
Tag:9020
Total: 40120

Full, Full, empty, empty, just me. Don't know what my rated limits are.

[JIM CHALOUPKA]

Geoff, there should be a plate with your numbers on the wall next to the seat just behind and under the drivers window.

JIM

[Yankee802]

DOH, just looked thanks Jim, there's a sticker on the driver's side window, can't believe I missed it!!

It states: For converter use only, uncompleted shell axle weight:
Front: 6500
Diff: 12375
Aux: 4125

Total of 23000!

I don't see anything else posted around the driver's area for ratings.

[Jon Wehrenberg]

Unless it has been removed there is a metal manufacturer's plate attached to the side wall next to the driver's seat cushion. It is hard to see. If someone removed it Prevost should be able to provide you with the information.

It has the coach serial number and a listing of axle weights and maximum allowable gross weight which will be less than the combined axle weights.

[Yankee802]

I'll take a closer look after work.

[rfoster]

Heck fire, my bus gained six pounds over yesterday -and it never moved.

[dalej]

Was it Micki's fault Rog?

[JIM CHALOUPKA]

My bus weighs 14,360 front, and 32,800 drive and tag, full fuel and fresh water and holding tank empty. I think I am over weight with one person on board and very little in the way of personal effects. :eek:

JIM

[phorner]

Jim,

Isn't your GVWR around 48,900?

Also, you can reduce your fresh water supply to around 50% and save about 650 lbs or so.

[JIM CHALOUPKA]

Paul, my GVWR is 47,000.

JIM

[Jon Wehrenberg]

If you pull that entertainment center / TV / crystal wine glasses / barbeque grille / TV / radio in the second bay and give it to me you will be under gross.

Take all the mirrors and polished stainless steel that is everywhere and you will be way under gross.

Take out about 4 of the TVs in the house and you will have so much extra capacity Barb will be able to bring more than a toothbrush and a Happy Meal.

If you replace the air in the tires with Helium the bus will float down the road.