Case of Incurable MPD

[surfsidebarney]

Hi Everyone,

Well I've gone and ahead and done it ... I'm picking up a new 2007 Legendary XL on Friday; #1022. Thanks to help of several members on this board (or should I blame them), I was able to arrange the financing to buy the coach. Jeff was particulary instrumental in hooking me up with fast Tommy. Mike P., Gary D., and Jeff was kind of enough to be sounding boards as to whether it was a good "deal", right decision, etc or not.

I will be signing all the papers tomorrow, so, this is the last chance for anyone to cure my MPD. I've got a checklist of things I need to do while I'm there based on the advice you all gave me. The following is the checklist:

1) Thoroughly go thru the whole coach and operate everything, push all the buttons, run all the systems, etc.
2) Get all the documentation I can on the coach, such as, manuals, schematics, drawings, spec sheet, etc.
3) Make sure that a PDI has been done on the coach (Vance at Legendary is doing the PDI). Coach only has 6000 miles on it - 3400 miles from Prevost factory to Coburg and a trip back and forth from San Diego to Coburg.
4) A good test drive.
5) Spare parts - I will get anything I can get my hands on since they are closing the facility. If anybody has list of spare parts I should get, please let me know because I have no idea what I should get in spare parts other than I will grab whatever I can get.

If anyone can think of anything else I should add to the checklist or anything I should do, please let me know.

I will post pictures later after I pick up the coach (or pictures can be viewed on the Legendary website; #1022).


Rick,
Soon to be cured of MPD :eek:

[garyde]

Congradulations Rick. it will be a while until you come back to earth after you get in the drivers seat. Enjoy!

[Jim_Scoggins]

I would be wondering about warranty type stuff:
Documentation from Prevost on the chassis?
Documentation/agreement with Legendary or third party on the house itself.
Extra tile/marble/granite in the same pattern as the floor.
Extra pieces of the wood trim or any other unique pieces of trim material.

Somebody else weigh in here that knows what they are talking about!

[Joe Cannarozzi]

Jim your too humble.

Rick congradulations. For some reason I keep picturing a woody with surf boards in tow:D

This is deffinatly the first day of the rest of your life:cool:

[Just Plain Jeff]

This has been a busy week in getting some deals put together. We've been able to put together people with the right coaches, right money and insurance. Others are yet to be revealed, but will likely emerge from the Dark Side when they are ready.

As we all know, this treatment for MPD is only temporary.

Congratulations to Rick!

[Jon Wehrenberg]

Congratulations.

Prevost should be standing behind your new coach so when you do your checkout your focus should be on the house and its systems.

As a new owner it is important to understand the dividing line between the chassis and the converter installed part of your coach. Before money chages hands and before you drive away you literally need to operate and understand the function of every switch and knob. Learn where plumbing shut offs are located, learn what is behind every access panel and learn how to locate and change AC filters.

Make sure you understand how your coach electrical system works. What circuits are on the inverters, what circuits will not function off the inverters, and what is the maximum load you can put on the inverters. Learn how to keep the coach cool and warm. If the coach has automatic features such as tank fill or generator start verify they work. On a new coach I would be particularly careful about listening and questioning every noise. For example, if the water pump kicks on when I am not drawing water I would find the reason. I would listen for things like short cycling of the AC units, an indication something might not be right.

A common irritation is the TV and sound system operation. Some coaches require a PHd to select what television source is desired, such as local antenna, cable, satellite, DVD, or tape. Make sure you understand this for every TV or sound source.

Try to anticipate problems. Is there anything that can fly open when you are going down the road? An empty refrigerator door might stay shut when driving, but line the shelves with food and drink, add in a sharp turn, and you have a mess. Ditto with all drawers and doors.

Before you take possession try to learn what the capacities mean to you. How long will your use of the coach deplete the water supply or fill the holding tanks. Same thing with battery power. You do not want to find yourself with dead batteries and not have an understanding of how to recharge them or get the generator started. You do not want to find your have filled your holding tanks and now you have some nasty stuff floating around in your shower. There are ways to manage your resources such as gray water by-pass and generator autostart.

Make sure you understand how to put your coach into storage. You want to know how and what to turn off. You do not want to put the coach away in a garage, and come back in a week to find your brand new coach is filled with diesel soot because the autostart function was not disabled and the generator was running inside a closed building.

There are similar concerns on the shell, but since that will be taken care of by Prevost I would urge you head to the closest Prevost facility and get a complete checkout.

BTW, after you have put all your stuff in your new coach, filled the water and fuel tanks, weigh the coach and each axle. With that information you can determine the tire pressures you will need for each axle. Very important.

[Just Plain Jeff]

Excrutiatingly painful as it is, I agree with most of what Jon noted in the previous posting.

Despite the vast age difference between A1 and myself, I am finding myself fussing about all kinds of little details that I never paid much attention to.

Now I am off to clean and polish the coils in the toaster before breakfast. I am pretty sure that the crumbs from yesterday's English muffin are still there.

That would result in Uneven Cookage!

Horrors!

[rmboies]

Hi Everyone,

Well I've gone and ahead and done it ... I'm picking up a new 2007 Legendary XL on Friday; #1022. (or pictures can be viewed on the Legendary website; #1022).
Rick,:

Rick, CONGRATULATIONS! We are thrilled for you and welcome to the Prevost camper world:D Everyone has given you great advice. Something Bob and I did with our current Millennium is videotape the instructions as we were touring the coach. You really need an extra person just to do the taping but it is worth it should you forget which switch goes to what. Most of the switches in our coach are not labeled and have little symbols. Some of the symbols must be in greek because we often had no idea what they were for! Both our Vantares had every switch labeled and that made things much easier. I would also echo Jon's advice on paying particular attention to the workings of the TV and sound systems. Every coach is different and I can tell you first hand how frustrating it can be to leave out a step and then wonder why the TV won't work, or it works and there is no sound, etc. I swear, I don't know why this part has to be so complicated......I would like a system with a separate remote for each TV and one for the sound. Nah, that would be to simple!!

[JIM CHALOUPKA]

Congratulations Rick, The only things I would add to the list would be:

Get your computer all set up in the bus so you can communicate with POG before you leave Legendary.

Stock up the bus with some basic food and beverage etc., so you are not forced to make a pit stop when you don't really want to. Take a friend or two along for the pick up. It's more fun and just in case something goes wrong, misery likes company.

If you are not going to video the instructions as Deb suggests, get a digital recorder and do it that way.

Be sure the dump hose is on board and do a hands on use test:D

[matsprt]

Congrats Rick,

We are currently in SLC and will be on our way to Albany OR on Friday, same day you are picking up your Legendary. We are going to the CC reunion later that next week. If you stay around for a few days we can hook up. Love to be one of the first to get a peek inside !!

You have my cell number give me a call.

Michael

[Gary & Peggy Stevens]

Be sure the dump hose is on board and do a hands on use test:D

Jim C., don't be SILLY.

New Legendary's don't come with dump hoses, you have to stop by Camping World and pick up a set that matches your color scheme? :eek: :D

Gary S.

[JIM CHALOUPKA]

Gary S, you got one involuntary chuckle out of that comment:D

[surfsidebarney]

I would be wondering about warranty type stuff:
Documentation from Prevost on the chassis?
Documentation/agreement with Legendary or third party on the house itself.
Extra tile/marble/granite in the same pattern as the floor.
Extra pieces of the wood trim or any other unique pieces of trim material.

Somebody else weigh in here that knows what they are talking about!

Jim,

That is one of the negatives about buying this coach in that it will not come with a warranty; but, they made up for it in the purchase price. But I will have full warranties on all the different components (chassis, refrigerator, Aqua-hot, etc).

I will check into what kind of "goodies" I can get at the factory while I'm there.

Thanks for the feedback Jim,
Rick

[surfsidebarney]

" ... BTW, after you have put all your stuff in your new coach, filled the water and fuel tanks, weigh the coach and each axle. With that information you can determine the tire pressures you will need for each axle. Very important.[/QUOTE]"

Jon thanks for the valuable feedback; I'm going to print off this whole thread and take it with me so that I can refer to while there.

Rick

[surfsidebarney]

Thank you everyone for your responses and advice. I really like the idea of videotaping everything. Not sure I will be able to do that because it will be just me picking up the coach; might be a little distracting to listen and video at the same time. I going to mull it over and think the best way to do that.

Note, there is a Prevost service facility in the city of Mira Loma, Calif; one of the many cities in the southern Calif. area (near Riverside). I need to call them and ask them if I need to have the oil changed (break-in service). Coach has 6,000 miles on it.

Question: Is there any spare parts that I really should try to obtain while I'm there?

Thanks again,
Rick :)

[garyde]

Hi Rick. I would make sure you have an assortment of fuses ; Glass Buss type and the 5,10,15,20,30 amp link fuses. Also, there has been suggestions you carry 2 or 3 of the relays Prevost uses. As far as Tools, I carry a whole tool box of tools ; I suggest you buy a kit if you do not already have something. Don't forget a tire guage.

[Jon Wehrenberg]

Rick,

Your new shell should have come with a goody kit from Prevost and it will contain various components as spares. If you do not have this kit when you are at Prevost you can order it. The kit actually has a part number.

You have to decide if you will do routine work on your coach or if you will have service facilities do the work. If you do the work obviously you will want oil filters, fuel filters, belts, fluids, etc.

If you do not do the work, at the very least always carry spare fuel filters. All it takes is a tank of lousy fuel to ruin your whole day, and having a set of fuel filters and access to a little fuel to maintain the prime will get you going in no time. The same goes for the generator.

Somewhere floating around with some POG members and maybe Jim Skiff is a maintenance schedule I created for my coach. Your coach will vary, but the format may help you pull it all together in one document because there are so many things to take care of it is difficult to track it.

Can anyone out there post the schedule or if not I can email it to you.

[Jim Skiff]

Jon,

You can find that maint. schedule here:

http://www.prevostownersgroup.com/servicesuggestions.html

Jim

[Gary & Peggy Stevens]

Rick I am emailing you a Word Document so you can change, or modify to suit your needs the Maintenance Schedule and keep great records on your new Legendary bus. ( It is not an Excel Spreadsheet, but a Word doc )

This document is what I put together from what Jon had given everybody and it is modifiable for your part numbers, mileage and so on.

Isn't this site great ! :)

Gary S

[jello_jeep]

Congratulations on the new rig.

They previously mentioned relays (12 and 24) are a good idea, some of the spare little indicator bulbs are a good idea. I have a set of belts, not too pricey and good to have aboard. Also after reading how someone got stuck in the middle of nowhere, bus at idle and would do anything else... I carry a spart TPS (throttle position sensor) just a little component that measures your input on the gas peddal (analog) and converts it into a digital signal to the engine.

It was like 120.oo or so, and clearly user changable..

Keep reading on, and as you see guys post what has failed, you can slowly build up your war chest.

As long as you have good roadside/tow assist, you will survive and become wiser :)

HAVE FUN with your new baby... If you come to PV Mira Loma, I only work 30 minutes or so from there, so if work slows down below 1000mph, maybe could swing by and have lunch or something.

[bluevost]

Gary S.

Would you be kind enough to email me the same Maintenance Schedule.
southernz@hotmail.com

Thanks my friend,

Ken

[surfsidebarney]

Gary you not kidding this is a great site. Again, thank you for sending me the Prevost maint. schedule. It looks like I will need to have a 5000 mile break-in service performed on the bus.

Jon: you are a wealth of information. Vance at Legendary did say I was going to get a spare parts kit with the bus. I'm also going to get as many different type of spare parts as I can, such as, fuses, belts, filters, relays, etc. I really not that mechanically inclined (I'm really mechanically challenged) but I think I can handle simple items. I'm printing off this thread and taking it with me to Legendary as a reminder of things I need to do and check for.

Warren: I will give you a call when I schedule the break-in maint. with PV Mira Loma; lunch sounds like a great idea.

Again, thank you everyone for your warm responses and advice.


36 hours and counting to pick-up,
Rick:eek:

[dalej]

Hey Rick, (surfsidebarny) should be signing that humugis (large) check somtime shortly so lets have a moment of silence. :)

congrats to him

[Jon Wehrenberg]

He does realize it is customary for new coach owners to sponsor the Robert Francis Bartley memorial steak dinner?

Rick, contact Skiffy for the particulars. The newest new coach owner has the opportunity to treat all the fellow POG members at the next rally to a sit down steak and wine dinner.

Is this a great country or what?