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Jerry Winchester
02-27-2006, 02:07 PM
Man I am a photo postin fool now.
http://jdub.smugmug.com/photos/57954753-L.jpg

And Jon will need one of these in his P-210 :)

http://jdub.smugmug.com/photos/57954624-M.jpg

Jerry Winchester
02-27-2006, 02:18 PM
I am adding one of these at annual time......

http://jdub.smugmug.com/photos/57955327-M.jpg

Jon Wehrenberg
02-27-2006, 03:22 PM
Hey Winchester.....real pilots don't need picture shows.

I do real well behind my vintage panel, including my KLN90B.

I can still fly NDB approaches.

Of course I do put a 396 on top of the dash.

Jon Wehrenberg
02-27-2006, 03:24 PM
BTW, If I was going to post a picture of my panel I wouldn't post one that shows my Bo going at 150 speeds.

I was at 257 kts to GSO last Thursday. I should have taken a picture of that.

Jerry Winchester
02-27-2006, 03:53 PM
If you are not going to get out on the leading edge, at least get out to the foreskin of technology. You can get a GPS (er, RNAV) approach to just about anywhere now.

OH and I can't help when they take the photos. I think we were still on the taxiway..........

http://jdub.smugmug.com/photos/57966316-M.jpg

My best cruise speed was 238kts coming back from Stillwater one day. Howling north wind got me home 35 minutes faster than normal. And I had a tailwind going up, so it was a bonus trip. :D

Mike says he is up for the OSH trip, so that just leaves you to commit for a quorum.

Jon Wehrenberg
02-27-2006, 08:29 PM
I'll commit. Lets do it.

By then I will be ready for a break.

We will all need to join up somewhere and arrive in a caravan to park together.

Just Plain Jeff
02-27-2006, 09:04 PM
....had a cockpit that looked like this.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f100dcp7.jpg

Imagine being 20 years old after a mission and the Major says, "Ever flown a jet before?"

Then he dropped his hands to his sides and I was flying.

War story.

Jerry Winchester
02-27-2006, 10:26 PM
Now I will have to hear that story.

My only jet time was this past year in a Citation. Guy says, "Hey you want to take off?" and me being no dummy said, "You bet" and I push the throttles forward, he calls out the speed, I pull back on the yoke and in about one minute we are IMC and I am flying on the gauges of a plane I have never set in.

Didn't take long for him to assume command...........

And for the POG2OSH, we should consider meeting in Rockford, IL on Saturday July 22nd and then on to OSH. I will be there the afternoon of the 21st, so even that will work. Are you going to fly or drive? I think Mike is bringing the Mothership, so I need to coax him into parking in the little lot just south of the N-40 where the Bonanza's will be. There is a gate directly across from the parking area (woods) that goes right into the airfield.

Jon Wehrenberg
02-28-2006, 08:19 AM
I'm planning on soloing in the bus. I don't do anymore fly-ins. Last was AOPA and it was a zoo.

I need to know how I can get my coffee delivered to my driver's seat if I am the only one on board? This is going to be interesting.

Hey Jerry.....did you notice the real plane Jeff flew didn't have pretty pictures? It had real gauges.

(FWIW I am a real ball breaker to the guys I hang with that have full Garmin panels including the MFD. They can't do anything I can't do, and my $2400 396 was a lot cheaper than their $100,000 panels.)

ken&ellen
02-28-2006, 08:45 AM
Ellen & I have been to a couple. Our Concord landing pictures are fantastic, but the noise at the edge of the runway to get the shots was deafening.
Never flew in, but landed in Appleton, WI several times.
Jerry, you gotta love belt fed arms...tough to conceal I will bet.
Ken

Jerry Winchester
02-28-2006, 10:06 AM
Isn't that were the term "the whole nine yards" comes from?

I had to sign my first invoice for "Crew Served Weapons" this past year.

http://jdub.smugmug.com/photos/58060167-M.jpg

Jerry Winchester
02-28-2006, 04:42 PM
Ken,

Sounds like you need to crew for Jon so he has a coffee source. You can come camp with us at the N-40, but it is strictly air mattresses and tents.

http://jdub.smugmug.com/photos/58104586-M.jpg

ken&ellen
03-01-2006, 07:48 AM
Jerry, Although you make a generous offer....serving coffee and sleeping on the ground....I think I will pass. The last time I slept in a tent was in the sixties. My idea of roughing it is a 30 Amp service at campground without a pool!
Ken

Jerry Winchester
03-02-2006, 03:29 PM
They typically have to be small enough to fit thru the door and light enough to not reduce the Mooney speed and fuel consumption propaganda.

http://www3.telus.net/bpbiking/images/feb13update3.jpg

Then the Mooneys decide to tackle Oshkosh......

From the Mooney Caravan web site..

Into the Enemy Camp

Not feeling very encouraged, I called the American Bonanza Society. I was aware that the ABS had been making large group arrivals into Oshkosh for a number of years and if anybody would know how to do it, they would. But would they talk to me? I was referred to Wayne Collins, a steely-eyed former Air Force fighter pilot. Once I had qualified the group and myself as serious and safety-minded, Wayne was more than gracious and quite willing to offer advice. I should give full credit to the Bonanza group for generously sharing their experience. The Mooney Caravan was patterned entirely on the Bonanza model, but with one significant difference. Whereas the Bonanza group flies in three- plane elements in tight formation, we felt, from the beginning, that we were unqualified for any close-in formation flying. Wayne referred me to their web page, to the key people in the FAA and EAA, and told me the essence of their procedures. The Bonanzas to Oshkosh Flight launches from Rockford IL, about 150 miles south of Oshkosh. The FAA treats the flight as a unit and permits special procedures that avoid the regular EAA Convention VFR arrival procedures.

Mooney Caravan to OSH - Same Way Same Day

Bonanzas to Oshkosh - The photos speak for themselves......

http://jdub.smugmug.com/photos/58317739-M.jpg

http://jdub.smugmug.com/photos/58317608-M.jpg

http://jdub.smugmug.com/photos/58317595-M.jpg

ken&ellen
03-02-2006, 03:49 PM
Your just jealous of our flamingo pink flying suits. :cool:

Jerry Winchester
03-02-2006, 03:56 PM
I think they are sexy :eek:

Are you going to make the OSH trip with the poofters, er uh, geeks? We may have to have a sidebar meeting at the rally.

Jon Wehrenberg
03-02-2006, 04:30 PM
Question: Do you know what makes a Vee tailed Bonanza fly?



Answer: They don't fly. They are so ugly the earth repels them.

ken&ellen
03-02-2006, 04:54 PM
Bravo! Sir Jon of Knoxville. Thou hast laid salt upon the tail of the ugly fowl!:p

Jerry Winchester
03-02-2006, 05:02 PM
Ouch, you guys are brutal.

And the engine out procedures for a C210?

Just toss a brick out the window and fly in formation with it.....

Jon Wehrenberg
03-02-2006, 05:15 PM
Ah, you're just jealous. Now, on with our previously scheduled show....

I am starting to get pumped about OSH. I will register as an EAA member. What else do I need to do so I can get in? I assume we have to make reservations? Do they have problems with a caravan?

I was there about 12 or 13 years ago, but we just showed up and got parked on the grass.

I am about to get the turbo, wastegate, controller etc replaced on my flying brick. Owning a plane makes owning a bus seem cheap.

Jerry Winchester
03-02-2006, 05:38 PM
Yep you need your EAA membership up to speed and that should get you in. You will need to conflab with Mike, etal, and see what the consensus for parking is. There is RV parking on the field but I don't know about hook-ups, etc. and there is parking for dry camping and then there are the two options I previously mentioned.

One is to park across from the North 40 on the south side and one is to park on the north side. You can catch a shuttle bus from either spot and it takes you to the registration / warbird area where you officially enter AirVenture.

The Bonanzas always park about 100 yards east of the North 40 Shower House, so the south side parking, which is owned by an individual, is right there. The EAA rv parking is on the southwest side of the complex; here is the link and it has other RV parking options.

http://www.airventure.org/2006/planning/06planning_guide.pdf

MangoMike
03-02-2006, 06:17 PM
In '04 I stayed rigth next to the Bonanza's on the north 40 by the showers (yes I was jealous). It was a great spot with a lot of access. I think I know the private spot your referring. Nice spot (drycamping I believe). Still would like to know where the Bluebirds were. I don't think you want to camp in the main RV area, as I recall it was a hike to the grounds.

Fly Mango Air

Jerry Winchester
03-02-2006, 06:42 PM
Yep I got the DVD today and what were the odds; you were parked RIGHT BEHIND US. I could see the nose of our Bonanza in one of the photos.

And talk about techno-geek, what a sweet DVD with music and everything. I think you have been sandbagging us.

And since you camped there, you know exactly where that parking place is. In the shade of those trees and I think it would be easy to get coaches in and parked. We should land on Saturday around 3.

But my favorite day is Sunday. The awning, the cooler, the lawn chair, the radio tuned into the RIPON arrival and watch the show. But then Jon would have to hang out with the V-Tail Nazis :eek:

And you get a pass to get onto the grounds when the crowd is not there :cool:

lewpopp
03-02-2006, 08:54 PM
Now you guys speak of showers...Are they for the airplanes cuz I just know you guys never shower. You smell like grease from here....:D